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Behind the Science Powering the Sun

dryson

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Report this Feb. 17 2014, 3:47 pm

What is fusion?


It is the process that powers the Sun. At the Sun's core, powerful gravitational forces generate enormous heat and pressure, causing a reaction whereby four hydrogen atoms fuse into one helium atom. But the mass of the helium atom is slightly less than the total mass of the original hydrogen atoms. The difference is converted to energy, as described by Einstein's equation E=MC2. We see this released energy as light and feel it as the Sun's warmth.


Read the article for more details.


Give it about twenty years and there will be a fusion powered engine capable of transporting humans to Mars and Back. Moore's Law says this will happen based upon technological advancements in computing


 


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304434104579379390862642188?mod=e2fb

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Report this Feb. 18 2014, 10:19 am

Fusion power would be wonderful! You would get much more energy than traditional nuclear fission, and you wouldn't have all that nasty nuclear waste to deal with.


The only problem is figuring out how to generate enough energy to begin the process, and containing it of course.


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Report this Feb. 18 2014, 5:23 pm

That is definitely true 23magic.


One of the added advantages of the fusion process discussed in the article is that once it has developed to be sustainable and containable it could be used for the following purposes:


1. Planetary development - Lets take the core of Mars for example which is thought to be solid. If a large enough fusion device such as the one in the article is placed at the center of the solid core and the containment field dropped the fusion process might create enough heat to melt the core that would fall in on itself. With all of the motion taking place in the core as the heated liquid begins splashing around the planet begin to have its own spin thus creating gravity.


The fusion release would have to great enough to melt at least half of the solid core and then flicker out so that the heat of the molten core would then take over  melting the rest of the core which would fall into the core thus causing even more turbulence to create planetary spin.


Once the core had collapsed in on itself the layer above the once solid core would begin to break apart falling into the core itself. As the pressure grew steadier and steadier the core now acting like a pressure cooker would find the weakest faults in the planets above core structure where the liquid and gas would flow through the fissures to the surface of the planet to create volcanoes. During the magma rising to the surface the magma would find pockets that would lead abck into the core itself where eventually such pockets would give rise to the continents above the pocket riding on a techtonic plate just like the plates on Earth do.


The process would be extremely violent at first but once the plate movement slid into a delicate planetary mechanism of shifting is when the evolution of the planet would begin.


What other uses do you think come from the creation of the Fusion Time Clock seen in the article?


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Report this Feb. 19 2014, 5:30 am

Well, if we could develop fusion technology to the point where it could be contained, and stable, we could have found a power source that could take us one step closer to warp drive. Assuming it's possible, that is. And that brings in a whole new set of possibilities.


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Report this Feb. 19 2014, 3:33 pm

Would it be possible to place the other components into space near a large gravity well--say Jupiter--to help with the pressure needed?


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Report this Feb. 21 2014, 3:29 am

The rest question is this. Will they be able to take the above process and cause the fusion reaction to collapse into a controllable black hole that would last for a micro-planck? If possible to control the collapse into a sub-atomic black hole then it might be possible to use the energy created in a directed manner to pull the ship from point on a vector to another point on a vector.


The fusion process would also be used to propel the ship forward while the micro-black hole process pulled the ship forward.


If Einsteins theory about relativity remains constant then because of the interaction between black holes in our Universe tapping into the energy network that binds two black holes together and using the micro-black hole process could allow the ship to obtain slightly faster velocities instead of only fusion being used to push the ship forward.


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Report this Feb. 21 2014, 9:02 am

That would be like slipstream propulsion, wouldn't it?  (Not exactly the same theory, but similar effects.)


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Report this Feb. 26 2014, 2:53 pm

Basically yes Miklamar the process would be similar to Slipstream as the ship would enter the wake created by the attracting black hole along the vector of the affected black hole.


Since the slipstream would be moving faster in this region then the ship would also travel at a faster velocity just like the slipstream in a river.


I believe that such a process does in fact exist for the simple reasoning that the process exists on Earth where we can see it taking place. In space there are alot of things that we can't see that are taking place like gravity.


The real difficulty would be first learning to find such a backwater river raft place then measuring it and then being able create a modulation of frequencies that would allow a ship to access the slipstream that once the ship was near its destination the frequency would be turned off returning the ship to normal space.


 


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Report this Feb. 27 2014, 6:11 am

In Star Trek, the Romulans harnessed the energy of a singularity to power their warp drive. If this is possible in real life, any ideas on how it could be contained?


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