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Why Enterprise was canceled

LajkMe

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Report this Jan. 31 2014, 2:48 am

Let's be honest, Enterprise was canceled because the producers and companies that runed the show, plus the mistakes of the writers and concept of the show. In desperation they added the Xindi arc wich in my opinion was a complete waste of time and money. It just didnt make any sense. Not to mention some plot holes about the temporal cold war.


 


If i was the producer in it first of all i would have sticked a bit more to the previous aranged plot and technology. I think the main themes should have been:


1) Human venture into deep space and facing new and unreal things


2) The danger of space most notably enemy species.


3) I liked the conflict betwen the Andorians and Vulcans and the Secret romulan plot to destabalise the region.


all in all i would have left the first and second season as it stands with minor changes.


As to the tehnological advances though i do love the NX design i would have rather seen the Prometheus design of ship cause it is cannon described in TOS.


No photon torpedos and no Phase cannons, Lasers and nuclear missiles would have suffice. Hull plating i love it Teleporters a big no and cloaking devices as seen in episode mine field that made a big plot killer.


 


As to Xindi arc wich also made alot of cannon go bye bye i would left that completly out, though i enjoyed some the episodes in it, it just did not make any sense whatsoever.


So season 3 would have been replaced by the 4th season witch was very good and explained many things seen in other star trek shows. It also started the tensions of the romulan war and how it would have looked like.


In season 4 i would demote most of the time spent in the show to a prelude of the romulan war, both on romulan and human side and the development of ideas of the early federation, add some random episodes inside to rest from the romulan arc.


Season 5 would be the start of the war and early stages i really liked the beneath the raptors wing books, i would have used quite alot of their ideas but stick more real. I liked the fact how the Vulcans and Andorians and Telarites withdraw from the war.


In show the begining would be a very confusing time for humans as they dont know exactly what is happening and the mistery of the romulans and the 2nd half of the season would let time progress over larger time, in it i would have shown the despair and hopelessnes of the Humans and betreyal of their alies and the romulan advance into Human held regions


The 6 season would see an change in the war, humanitys faith returning and all the best things about humans comming out of them creating an alliance and just near defeat at the end of the season i would have shown a deluce battle of chevron in wich the romulans where defeated by Human, Vulcan, Andorian and Telarite ships witch ended the war. The very last episode would feature a close up view of the birth of the federation.


What ya think?


ye no 7th season cause it would just be money making

stovokor2000-A

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Report this Feb. 02 2014, 7:10 pm

Quote: LajkMe @ Jan. 31 2014, 2:48 am

>i would have rather seen the Prometheus design of ship cause it is cannon described in TOS.


excuse me, but when in TOS was that class described or mentioned?


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22123magic

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Report this Feb. 13 2014, 7:57 am

Apparently, he has no answer. Maybe he meant Daedelus.


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Pooneil

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Report this Feb. 14 2014, 3:50 pm

Quote: LajkMe @ Jan. 31 2014, 2:48 am

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>As to the tehnological advances though i do love the NX design i would have rather seen the Prometheus design of ship cause it is cannon described in TOS.

>No photon torpedos and no Phase cannons, Lasers and nuclear missiles would have suffice. Hull plating i love it Teleporters a big no and cloaking devices as seen in episode mine field that made a big plot killer.

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I'm pretty sure the show wasn't cancelled because of the photon torpedoes. It got the axe because it was an expensive science fiction show on a major network and it wasn't pulling in the audience it needed. How many people changed the channel because of a few minor breaches of Trek canon?


The plot you've described sounds like DS9. Did Trek really need another big interstellar brawl so soon? The idea behind the Xindi arc was to try to reflect the War on Terror -- the attack on Earth out of nowhere, the fanatical enemy, the good guys using torture to get crucial information, etc. Space battles with the Romulans wouldn't have done the trick.

stovokor2000-A

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Report this Feb. 14 2014, 5:39 pm

Quote: Pooneil @ Feb. 14 2014, 3:50 pm

>It got the axe because it was an expensive science fiction show on a major network and it wasn't pulling in the audience it needed. 

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the Paramount network never qulified as a MAJOR NETWORK


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Pooneil

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Report this Feb. 15 2014, 3:25 pm

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Feb. 14 2014, 5:39 pm

Quote: Pooneil @ Feb. 14 2014, 3:50 pm

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>It got the axe because it was an expensive science fiction show on a major network and it wasn't pulling in the audience it needed. 

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the Paramount network never qulified as a MAJOR NETWORK


I think I meant "network" as opposed to "syndicated", and "major" as opposed to "some tiny cable channel where no one would've noticed it". As a show on UPN, Enterprise was competing directly with the other broadcast networks; had it been syndicated or on the SyFy Channel, its ratings would have been more than enough to warrant a couple more seasons.

stovokor2000-A

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Report this Feb. 15 2014, 4:14 pm

Quote: Pooneil @ Feb. 15 2014, 3:25 pm

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Feb. 14 2014, 5:39 pm

Quote: Pooneil @ Feb. 14 2014, 3:50 pm

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>It got the axe because it was an expensive science fiction show on a major network and it wasn't pulling in the audience it needed. 

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the Paramount network never qulified as a MAJOR NETWORK

I think I meant "network" as opposed to "syndicated", and "major" as opposed to "some tiny cable channel where no one would've noticed it". As a show on UPN, Enterprise was competing directly with the other broadcast networks; had it been syndicated or on the SyFy Channel, its ratings would have been more than enough to warrant a couple more seasons.

I can neither agree or disagree with you on the ratings issues.


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Sora

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Report this Feb. 16 2014, 5:02 pm

And assuming your scenario did happen and there was a season 6, ending the show without giving it a 7th season would have been downright insulting because every series that came after TOS was given 7 seasons. Enterprise was the first show that broke that tradition. And it's really a shame that the show couldn't have continued on because I think at the rate it was going, Rick Berman and Brannon Braga's 5th and 6th seasons would have dealt very heavily with the Romulan War and season 7 would had been a prelude to the Federation. It would have been great stuff. But UPN wasn't the right place for Enterprise. Voyager didn't belong there either. TNG and DS9 did very well for themselves being syndicated, and I think Voyager would have done even better if it had also been syndicated and if Enterprise had been syndicated, we would now have 7 DVD seasons sitting on our shelves instead of 4. I don't care what anyone says about Enterprise, it was an awesome chapter of Star Trek history and it deserved far better than what it got.

stovokor2000-A

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Report this Feb. 16 2014, 6:43 pm

Quote: Sora @ Feb. 16 2014, 5:02 pm

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>And assuming your scenario did happen and there was a season 6, ending the show without giving it a 7th season would have been downright insulting because every series that came after TOS was given 7 seasons. Enterprise was the first show that broke that tradition. And it's really a shame that the show couldn't have continued on because I think at the rate it was going, Rick Berman and Brannon Braga's 5th and 6th seasons would have dealt very heavily with the Romulan War and season 7 would had been a prelude to the Federation. It would have been great stuff. But UPN wasn't the right place for Enterprise. Voyager didn't belong there either. TNG and DS9 did very well for themselves being syndicated, and I think Voyager would have done even better if it had also been syndicated and if Enterprise had been syndicated, we would now have 7 DVD seasons sitting on our shelves instead of 4. I don't care what anyone says about Enterprise, it was an awesome chapter of Star Trek history and it deserved far better than what it got.

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why do you think syndicatatrion would have helped?


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mkm1911

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Report this Apr. 07 2014, 2:53 pm

I've read things like ratings and competition cancelling it.  IDK, I think if maybe it wasn't moved to Friday night it's last year and on CBS (not UPN - Ch20 here in VA) it would be better.  I mean, CBS is the largest and most powerful networks right now, with ABC and NBC close behind.  The 3rd season I liked.  I enjoyed seeing Archer change.  Even Archers stated, when a comment was made to him about how he's changed, "...and not at all for the better."  It made him seem more... real.


I agree, though, if B&B (Berman/Braga) wasn't involved, maybe some better writers, and better newtork along with a better time, who knows how well it would have done?

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