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Dominion vs. Borg-- a different take

Hippocritopotamus

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Report this Dec. 30 2013, 9:20 am

The question of who would will a war between the Dominion and the Borg has gotten a lot of comments, mostly relating the military/economic/tech advantages of each side. 


But why assume that the Founders would even WANT to fight the Borg at all? The ultimate aim of the Founders, after all, is to reduce chaos throughout the galaxy. The Borg Collective is nothing if not organized. My guess would be that the Founders would quickly see that the Borg are a superior tool for attaining their ultimate goal. As long as the Borg couldn't assimilate the Founders themselves (which everybody seems to agree about), the Founders would simply let the Borg defeat their Jem Hadar and Vorta allies (either through conquest or assimilation) and attempt to place their own (hidden) operatives in control of the Borg. The Borg "win" the outward war, but the Founders pull the strings. 

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Dec. 30 2013, 12:33 pm

Who's version of "order"?  That's the problem with tyrannical regimes.


Sounds a lot like when Nazi Germany entered into a treaty with Communist USSR in 1939.  Both were authoritarian governments like the Borg & Dominion.

miklamar

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Report this Jan. 08 2014, 5:37 pm

The Dominion would not have attacked the Borg, but the Borg would probably have tried to assimilate them.  Therefore, they would have to fight a defensive war.


Personally, I think the Borg would win.  If so, can you imagine how-powerful they would have become?!


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Report this Jan. 09 2014, 1:23 pm

Do you think Odo could be Assimilated?  that would be soooo sad


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22123magic

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Report this Jan. 10 2014, 7:15 am

Borg. DEFINITELY the Borg.


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UninvitedGuest

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Report this Jan. 10 2014, 7:37 am

lol, I'm pretty sure assimilating a shape-shifter wouldn't work though. Anybody remember if they ever even showed a "solid" Borg without two arms/legs? That's still a long ways from a liquid changeling.

QuantumMath

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Report this Jan. 10 2014, 3:43 pm

Well, this would depend on if the dominion had transphasic torpedoes.


 


Also, it could also depend on strategy, if the dominion, or any other race for that matter, found a way to get to unimatrix 1, they could kill the queen, kill the next one and so on, without a queen, the collective would be easy to pick off.


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22123magic

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Report this Jan. 10 2014, 6:04 pm

Yes, but the Queen can be replaced by another female of her species, no? 



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Report this Jan. 14 2014, 5:44 pm

The dominion would probably see the borg, just as you said, am orderly system. Although this may be the case, the borg want to assimilate everyone and add their to their own. The borg would definitely choose a fight with the dominion. And why do you think that the founders couldn't be assimilated? They can easily be infected with a virus so why not nanoprobes? The borg are so vast that probably eventually in the future they would come in contact with the dominion, and as you all know resistance is futile with the borg so obviously the dominion would become a part of the borg. Their group nothing more than a mere memory or thought in a while. 

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Report this Jan. 15 2014, 4:01 pm

When the changelings are not infected by a virus, they are quite powerful themselves.  I'd say that a single jem hadar can probably do more damage to borg drones in close combat than the other way around.  I don't know that it's so clear either way who would win.  The borg clearly have a technical advantage, but the species of the dominion are very powerful as individuals.  If the queen were damaged or if the drones were detached from the collective, then they'd have no hope. 

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Report this Jan. 15 2014, 5:16 pm

What if the Borg assimilated the Jem'Hadar and Vorta cloning technology? Then, they could clone all the drones they wanted (as if they didn't have enough already). And remember, the Borg Queen can be easily replaced, and they have self-repairing nano-technology.


Yes, with one drone against one Jem'Hadar, the Jem'Hadar would probably win. But if there were other drones, they would adapt, the first drone would heal itself, and the drones would keep attacking until they overwhelmed the Jem'Hadar and assimilated it, its technology, and the ability to clone their own drones. Then, the Vorta would be easy targets, and the changelings would be hunted down one by one and destroyed, if they couldn't be assimilated. Although the changelings could probably be ignored as they are pretty harmless alone without their empire.


 


Conclusion:


  We are the Borg.  The Dominion will be assimilated.   Changelings are irrelevant.  The Dominion will adapt to service us.  Their biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own.  Resistance is futile. 


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LukeFloorwalker

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Report this Jan. 16 2014, 1:38 pm

It seems to me that everytime the Founders shapeshifted all those nasty little Borg inplants woould just fall on the floor. How do you assimilate a big glob of goo?

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Report this Feb. 20 2014, 6:17 pm

Quote: LukeFloorwalker @ Jan. 16 2014, 1:38 pm

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>It seems to me that everytime the Founders shapeshifted all those nasty little Borg inplants woould just fall on the floor. How do you assimilate a big glob of goo?

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Good points, LukeFloorwalker.


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Report this Feb. 21 2014, 4:00 am

Didn't the obsidian order develop a way to prevent the changlings from changing form? if they could do this for 16 hours, they could have drones, who would regenerate for 4 hours and have to assume a solid form for another 16 hours


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Report this Feb. 21 2014, 7:05 am

That could work.


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