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Environmental Engineering

miklamar

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Report this Oct. 11 2013, 1:05 pm

I've probably discussed this before, but I could not find anything on Memory Alpha or Memory Beta about this.  So, I thought it might be discussed here.


Environmental Engineering is a vital part of living on a starship, so it should be given high priority.  Without the proper amount of breathable air, the crew would suffocate.  The proper air pressure, humidity and temperature are also important matters.


Yet, there seems to be little information in the texts about it.  I think there should be a permanent station on the Main Bridge for it, and it should have its own office onboard.  Perhaps even a holographic EE (like the EMH) should oversee that terminal on the Bridge, in case a disaster overtakes the ship that would knock out humanoids.


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Pooneil

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Report this Oct. 15 2013, 12:45 pm

Environment Control was actually one of the aft stations on the bridge of the Enterprise-D. There's usually someone back there, but since it's the 24th-century equivalent of operating the thermostat, it doesn't get a lot of attention on the show.


I've often wondered how they maintain a comfortable environment for different species. Maybe different ships have crews of different compositions -- such as a mostly-Vulcan crew, who'd have their thermostat set higher and drier.

miklamar

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Report this Oct. 18 2013, 8:24 am

Yes, the background for the other Bridge officers and stations makes the experience seem more realistic and complete.  The episode about the junior officers on the Enterprise-D is one of my favorites. (I can never remember its title:  "Lower Decks," "Junior Quarters" or whatever!)


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TravisMalcolm

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Report this Oct. 20 2013, 5:37 pm

There were a number of episodes on Enterprise that dealt with the gravity plate going hay wire. And there were at least two TOS that dealt with the problem of no life support. One was on a ship that was as we say on Earth dead in the water, the other was at a research station where all systems were down. There might have been a third episode but I only have a vauge sense of that.


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Report this Oct. 20 2013, 7:18 pm

I would like to see a bit more realism in the technology needed to create artificial gravity on a space craft... and what's also very odd is that every Earth-like planet has a similar (read exactly) gravity. If intelligent beings were to evolve on different planets, it would be very unlikely they'd all 'weigh' the same on each other's planets... planets by their nature are different sizes, and therefore have different mass, therefore different gravity. I wouldn't expect many episodes address this, but it would be realistic. They did have one episode where an alien needed special technology (I believe it was an episode of ST: Enterprise), and he natural, comfortable state was floating. They also touched on it in the movie ST VI: The Undiscovered Country...

Pooneil

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Report this Oct. 23 2013, 12:10 pm

Different gravity on different worlds might explain how some alien races -- Vulcans or Klingons -- are physically stronger than humans, despite looking the same.

EmpokNorStationManager

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Report this Oct. 23 2013, 7:52 pm

Quote: switcherdawna @ Oct. 20 2013, 7:18 pm

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>I would like to see a bit more realism in the technology needed to create artificial gravity on a space craft... and what's also very odd is that every Earth-like planet has a similar (read exactly) gravity.


I don't disagree with you, however we know so little about gravity and it's functionality today, it's hard to build realism into something when you have little to no knowledge on it's foundational pricinples.


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EmpokNorStationManager

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Report this Oct. 23 2013, 7:54 pm

Quote: miklamar @ Oct. 18 2013, 8:24 am

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>Yes, the background for the other Bridge officers and stations makes the experience seem more realistic and complete.  The episode about the junior officers on the Enterprise-D is one of my favorites. (I can never remember its title:  "Lower Decks," "Junior Quarters" or whatever!)

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Lower Decks is the episode that deals with several ensigns who are all up for promotions...  and agreed, excellent episode...  


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EmpokNorStationManager

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Report this Oct. 23 2013, 7:57 pm

Quote: Pooneil @ Oct. 15 2013, 12:45 pm

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>Environment Control was actually one of the aft stations on the bridge of the Enterprise-D. There's usually someone back there, but since it's the 24th-century equivalent of operating the thermostat, it doesn't get a lot of attention on the show.

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I guess to echo Miklamar, I think that station deserves alot more attention than it actually gets.  Probably the least glamorous engineering station on the ship, but the most vital since it's artificially maintaining an environment suitable for life on the ship.  All the different parameters are pretty stifling...  and to be honest, it should be like monitoring a thermostat.... but several dozen thermostats with a very very narrow range of operation...  


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miklamar

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Report this Oct. 28 2013, 9:08 am

Thank you EmpokNorStationManager!  Life on a starship is like life in a submarine:  you are surrounded by a potentially lethal environment, so you have to maintain all life-support systems and functions in optimal working order.  Redundancy helps!


 


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