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Captain Plunjer

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Report this Sep. 04 2013, 3:33 pm

All this rehashing had me look up if there was any response by Johnathan Frakes about his part in that disaster... (Nice to see a classy guy like Frakes admit it was not treks best moment) and heres what he had to say...... 


 


Frakes, who played Commander Riker in Star Trek (as well as directing a couple of the Trek movies), popped up in the finale of Enterprise, and seems to regret the decision. He was taking part in a Q&A session at the Central Canada Comic-Con, and he had things to say about the finale, which also featured guest appearances from Marina Sirtis and Brent Spiner.


According to High Def Digest, Frakes said that “Rick Berman, executive producer of all things Star Trek, called Marina and myself and said 'we'd like you to do the last episode of Enterprise' ... They said it would be a Valentine to the fans, but all of it ended up doing I think was hurting Scott Bakula's feelings”.


Frakes went on to say that “I said to Scott, this is weird for me to be on your show and your show is being taken off before it should be taken off. And he was such a gentleman about it, and said "no, glad you're here". So it was awkward on all accounts, except with working with Marina again which is always lovely. But I wasn't crazy about it. And it was so thinly connected, I thought too. Thanks for bringing up such an unpleasant memory".




TravisMalcolm

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Report this Sep. 04 2013, 5:50 pm

I think Ricker's vouager needs (what else are holodecks for?) were focussed on just what the episode covered, nothing more, nothing else. Otherwise, one has to find a moral link between destroying, what was it, sphere 41? and Ricker's moral delima? No match there.


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2takesfrakes

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Report this Sep. 05 2013, 5:12 pm

I thought Riker and Troi's inclusion
made perfect sense. And I'm enough
of a TNG fan that I actually like seeing
them take part in other STAR TREKs ...


ScottLukasWilliams

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Report this Sep. 06 2013, 10:11 am

I am a HUGE Trekkie but I stopped watching Enterprise regularly halfway through season one. I came back to it in season three and loved what they did in seasons three and four.  I've since gone back and watched the entire series several times and I appreciate it more.


Many of the standalone episodes in seasons one and two were fairly generic and could have been Voyager or TNG episodes.  When the producers and writers changed tracks and began doing a lot of serialized stories the series improved a great deal.  If you look at TV in general beginning in the 2000s, serialized shows have become the norm. Grand, sweeping movie-like arcs are standard now.


I think Manny Coto really improved the series when he took over in season four. He really did a lot of work to connect Enterprise to TOS.  For long-time Trekkies I think that was a huge deal. I would have loved to have seen a season five.


As to the finale, it seemed rushed. I wish the studio had given them two more episodes for a total of 100. They really could have given us a good birth of the Federation story that way.  As a huge TNG fan it was great to revisit the Enterprise-D and see Riker and Troi.  It did feel forced though.  The justification for Riker's trip down the holo memory lane was weak and if you view it in the context of the original TNG episode "Pegaus" it sort of weakens that as well. After "Turnabout Intruder" it is definitely the least satisfying of the finales but I can appreciate what they were trying to do.  They knew it would be the end of an era for the franchise.


I think Enterprise has now found an audience. The blu-ray releases are wonderful and I think there is room to continue the series maybe in TV movies or mini-series events.


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rob39874

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Report this Sep. 09 2013, 12:01 am

Yeah it was only the last episode he has recreated just so he could find where his loyalty lay. But I agree Frakes and Sirtis should have declined but then agin who would they have put in there place? Possibly Mulgrew and Beltram I shudder to think.

TravisMalcolm

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Report this Sep. 13 2013, 9:29 am

Quote: rob39874 @ Sep. 09 2013, 12:01 am

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>Yeah it was only the last episode he has recreated just so he could find where his loyalty lay. But I agree Frakes and Sirtis should have declined but then agin who would they have put in there place? Possibly Mulgrew and Beltram I shudder to think.

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I liked Mulgrew, thought the character was well written, well concived. Loved that she did not want to be addressed as "Sir," such a silly to put it nicely concept on GR's part. I don't think anyone had to make an guest star appearance (that is besides the regular actors Ent relied on). Maybe if no one else 'looked in' on the last 'mission' Tripp lives.


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moonbeam6612

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Report this Sep. 14 2013, 6:47 am

I am only four episodes into season 1 of ENT, and to be honest, I really disliked everything about the pilot episode, from the theme song to the captain.


However I enjoyed the next two episodes a lot more since they were less about "action" and more about character development which I find infinitely more interesting than endless phaser shooting scenes. So I gave Broken Bow another chance and rewatched it, and now the whole thing is growing on me. 


I'm still not a big fan of Archer, and things like the way he acted in Strange New World (ignorant and clueless) plus his dumb little joke to T'Pol in the pilot (about knocking her on her ass) dont exactly endear him to me. Hopefully he'll grow, too. Right now he still acts like a space cowboy. 


"Course heading, Captain?" "Second star to the right. And straight on 'til morning."

rob39874

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Report this Sep. 16 2013, 12:50 am

Quote: moonbeam6612 @ Sep. 14 2013, 6:47 am

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>I am only four episodes into season 1 of ENT, and to be honest, I really disliked everything about the pilot episode, from the theme song to the captain.

>However I enjoyed the next two episodes a lot more since they were less about "action" and more about character development which I find infinitely more interesting than endless phaser shooting scenes. So I gave Broken Bow another chance and rewatched it, and now the whole thing is growing on me. 

>I'm still not a big fan of Archer, and things like the way he acted in Strange New World (ignorant and clueless) plus his dumb little joke to T'Pol in the pilot (about knocking her on her ass) dont exactly endear him to me. Hopefully he'll grow, too. Right now he still acts like a space cowboy. 

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IMO Season one they want to try and make Archer like a prequel Kirk which fails miserably he gets better in later seasons but he is one of the worst captains he lacks the fire taht make Krik Picard and Sisko my favourite

TravisMalcolm

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Report this Sep. 18 2013, 8:49 pm

Archer grows, and so does Trip, so too Hoshi. I think that the point is that they are so fed up with the Vulcans throwing their weight around and convincing Star Fleet that the Earthlings are not ready to explore deep space that they will take any reason to get out. Sure they have a lot to learn, over time they learn.


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Sehlat123

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Report this Sep. 19 2013, 11:42 am

Quote: moonbeam6612 @ Sep. 14 2013, 6:47 am

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>I am only four episodes into season 1 of ENT, and to be honest, I really disliked everything about the pilot episode, from the theme song to the captain.

>However I enjoyed the next two episodes a lot more since they were less about "action" and more about character development which I find infinitely more interesting than endless phaser shooting scenes. So I gave Broken Bow another chance and rewatched it, and now the whole thing is growing on me. 

>I'm still not a big fan of Archer, and things like the way he acted in Strange New World (ignorant and clueless) plus his dumb little joke to T'Pol in the pilot (about knocking her on her ass) dont exactly endear him to me. Hopefully he'll grow, too. Right now he still acts like a space cowboy. 

>


Personally, I love the pilot, and as you go through the series, Archer makes more sense. ENT probably had the best character developement of any series.


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TravisMalcolm

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Report this Sep. 19 2013, 5:34 pm

Quote: Sehlat123 @ Sep. 19 2013, 11:42 am

>Personally, I love the pilot, and as you go through the series, Archer makes more sense. ENT probably had the best character developement of any series.

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Among the big 3 characters this is very much the case. Would have loved to see the developed of crew member Cutler played byKellie Waymire She appeared in at least two of the early episodes, "Strange new world" & "Dear doctor". Waynire died young. of heart complications. 


 


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2takesfrakes

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Report this Sep. 22 2013, 12:46 am

Jonathan Archer's endless, boring speeches
really leapt me out of the show, sometimes.
The cast, especially Jolene Blalock, always
seemed particularly disinterested in them.
Other than that, I don't know. I kind of
wanted ENTERPRISE to be more like a NASA
Space Shuttle that was updated just enough
to fire some weapons, but still allow for
the crew to float, like astronauts do. Yes,
I get it that it wouldn't have been logical
to not have Earth receive alient technology,
but I really wanted to see that. Do ask why.


randallp68

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Report this Oct. 09 2013, 1:38 am

I loved it. It had a gritty kind of style to it. Refreshing. Plus I love NCC-1701.

moonbeam6612

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Report this Oct. 09 2013, 2:59 am

I just hope the humans stop acting like space cowboys soon because I'm tired of their attitudes (Hoshi being the exception). Whenever T'pol points something out, she's usually right, but they usually dont listen to her because hey, Vulcans are only trying to hold humans back.


It has been said that Archer was supposed to be like Kirk, well, Kirk was NOTHING like that. Kirk had respect for other races. He NEVER made me think "space cowboy". Archer seems incredibly immature. I have warmed up to Scott Bakula a little bit by now (about halfways into season 1), after all it's not his fault that his character is such a lousy space ship captain. 


Other than that I'm finding the show more enjoyable now. Hey it's Star Trek and I've never watched it before! So even its not perfect, it's still pretty good :-)


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TravisMalcolm

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Report this Oct. 10 2013, 5:15 pm

It gets better. And Jolene's character deepens, best part of the series.


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