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Trek for Rookies

Dude108

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Report this Jul. 12 2013, 8:47 pm

I cover sci-fi for a great site called Action A Go Go.

One question that I kept seeing pop up online is,"I loved the Abrams reboots, so where should I start with the tv shows?"

Decided to write a series entitled "Trek for Rookies."

Posted the introductory piece today and over the next five weeks will be covering each of the five series.

Here's a link to the first article. Any and all feedback is appreciated. Thanks!

http://www.actionagogo.com/2013/07/trek-for-rookies-overview.html

kevin.nelson.1291

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Report this Jul. 13 2013, 12:34 pm

Great idea! I've noticed that a number of my younger relatives have garnered an interest in Star Trek as a result of the reboot, but, as you said, feel a little lost in terms of where to begin (I had a nephew who selected "Play next episode" on my Netflix account. At the time I was in the middle of Deep Space Nine, Season 6. Needless to say, he was a bit confused). As for the page itself, looks good except for a few errors which were already addressed by the commenter there. Looking forward to what you post, and will be recommending it to interested parties.

heronymous

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Report this Jul. 13 2013, 3:00 pm

It would seem that the remastered TOS (Original Series) might be a good start ! If that's too Old School for newbies , maybe Enterprise (2001-05) which is very similar in look and feel to the Nu Movies , or The Next Generation which has a modern feel and is the beginning of a Group of Series !  

starkorn

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Report this Jul. 13 2013, 7:23 pm

Let them try TOS "Where no man has gone before".


Or ENT "Broken Bow".


They might perfer TNG "Best of Both Worlds".   


Give them a try.

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Report this Jul. 13 2013, 9:38 pm

History! There was a great feeling that we would blow each other up in the cold war in 1966. My school was a fallout shelter, and we regulary had nuclear attack exercises.


Star Trek was two things: The hope for a future, which was seemingly depressing at the time, and the dialogue between logic and emotion, a human issue represented by the characters.


In 1966, all of us were afraid that mankind would destroy itself in a nuclear explosion. Star Trek presented a possible future. A place where we could be the better angels we wanted to be.


Peace,


Mo

Dude108

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Report this Jul. 14 2013, 2:47 pm

First off, a thousand thanks for your taking the time to comment. Life is short. There are millions of websites and threads out there. And your choice to participate is truly appreciated.

Apologies for the errors in the first article. Would like to change them, and will try to do so, but it was technically posted by the gentleman who started the site. Getting him to do edits is sometimes problematic. From now on though, I have complete control over what I post, so errors will be easily corrected in the future.

I love the idea of recommending individual episodes. Will have to wrestle with my Type A personality though which screams,"WHAT!?! NOT starting with the PILOT EPISODE!?! Are you INSANE!?!"    =-)

Will be working my backwards, starting with ENT and ending with TOS. As a rookie myself, my gut is telling me that ENT wasn't given enough of a shot by the network, the general population and even some Trekkies. Yeah, it had its faults, but it also had much awesomeness.

Again, thanks. Any and all feedback is truly appreciated!

queenuhura

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Report this Jul. 14 2013, 3:08 pm

Disclaimer: This is just my opinion about the Star Trek rookie issue. Don’t shoot me for my feelings. Its just my two cents.


I hope that youre right and the younger viewers can accept the canon of The Star Trek legacy left by Gene Roddenberry, but I personally have my doubts. $0.02


The Star Trek universe, from TOS through TNG, VOY, DS9 and Enterprise was, among other things, about elevation. Elevating our society and ourselves as human beings. Each episode had an idealistic message and was peppered with philosophical quotes prompting deep thinking, technical references to quantum physics and fractal algorithmic equations, and cushy feel-good tolerance of other species (24th century code for no racism).


Todays generation seems to have other interests with much shorter attention spans.


Lens flares, huge explosions and a Vulcan in an emotional relationship(OMG). $0.02  The JJdumdum $0.02 movies are dumbed down versions of the Star Trek I know and love. This new era of Star Trek is not so much Science Fiction as it is Action Fiction.


However, I would be inclined to agree with your type A personality. It seems that doing anything other than starting from the beginning and continuing thru would be confusing. $0.02 Good luck with your articles.


 


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FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Jul. 14 2013, 4:23 pm

Don't forget the hundreds books published over the years.

heronymous

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Report this Jul. 14 2013, 4:48 pm

The Deep Space 9 Series (DS9) and Voyager Series (VOY) are linked to The Next Generation Series (TNG) , and are best enjoyed in order of TNG-DS9-VOY ! Good Viewing !!


 

Dude108

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Report this Jul. 14 2013, 5:00 pm

Admiral Bam Bam....not even touching the books for the TFR series, for I haven't read them. To be honest, I've been afraid to, for fear of giving up all my other reading!  =-)

And Queen Uhura, you say not to reply with "hate mail," but what you essentially posted WAS hate mail, and your type of thinking is exactly what may turn many younger people off of Star Trek.

Please remember, part of the Star Trek canon is INCLUSIVENESS, and yet you have labeled an entire younger generation as being merely attracted to shiny objects and having short attention spans.

Every generation has its faults and weeknesses, but this generation has more information at their disposal than any other previous one. Yes, there are idiots, but there are also teens that are helping to find cures for cancer and disease, saving millions of lives in Africa, and creating things with technology that you will probably never understand.

The primary reason I watched all five series last year (aside from having a major illness, therefore lots of free time) was BECAUSE of the Abrams 2009 reboot, which I'm certain Mr. Roddenberry would've been extremely happy with.

And "Into Darkness?" Whoa. Regarding acting, plot, writing, CGI/special effects? The best Trek film ever made and I can't wait for the third one.

Thinking like yours is why ENT only had four seasons instead of seven. Its why we won't see the formation of the Federation or a Romulan war.

You may consider yourself a Trekkie for any number of reasons, but your actions dictate that maybe you've missed the entire messages Mr. Roddenberry was trying to convey: elimination of dogma, seeing things in a new way, embracing change, embracing reason and what's that other thing? Oh yeah. Its okay to have some fun along the way as well.

Abrams and this generation are not worth "$0.02." Your opinions are. If they're even worth anything at all.

If you don't want "hate mail" then don't spread hate yourself.

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Jul. 14 2013, 6:26 pm

Quote: Dude108 @ Jul. 14 2013, 5:00 pm

>Admiral Bam Bam....not even touching the books for the TFR series, for I haven't read them. To be honest, I've been afraid to, for fear of giving up all my other reading!  =-)
Yea... unless you're a speed reader.... I wasn't thinking of you reading through all of them, but maybe mentioning them as extensions of the episodes and movies.  Sometimes, the books fill in gaps and even spin-off series.  A great place that has a lot of info on the books (and comics, etc.) can be found at Memory Beta.

queenuhura

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Report this Jul. 14 2013, 7:51 pm

@Dude108  On the contrary, I have nothing but good things to say about the original Star Treks (and I include all the series in that, not just TOS), so I have been a promoter of the profound interest in the Star trek universe, and speak to young people often about this very topic. When my Trek fandom is known, I am often confronted with queries about what series to start watching. 


Yes, this generation already has and will have more knowledge than previous ones not only because they have more data available to them, but also because they have to in order to keep up with all the ever changing advances. Todays actual technology is so far beyond what was even imagined for future centuries in these shows. We live in a much faster paced world, as will each one that comes after. Metaphorically speaking it seems children leave the womb with superior technological insight. They are the future rulers of this world. Their children and grand-children will be the Kirks and Janeways and Archers of the future.


I did not label this entire generation, call them idiots, or disparage them in any way. I made a statement to the generational differences as years progress. We all have shorter attention spans. 20 years ago we waited for dial-up, now if video takes longer than two seconds we’re yelling at the computer or phone or whatever. So what I said was not intended to belittle this generation, but just another observation which you probably feel is not even worth two cents, and youre entitled to that too.


And the fact is that movies these days are louder, brighter, faster paced, if for no other reason than the mechanisms that allow for those things did not exist in the past, and its what people have come to expect. Thought provoking and contemplative don’t hold peoples attention like they once did. They tend to lose interest when there are not intricate set designs and graphic special effects. Don’t get me wrong I love a good action flick, and some awesome special effects and CGI are great. But being, as you stated, ‘a Trekkie’ from the watching the original, that is not what I want to see when I see Star Trek.


Granted, I did not speak nicely of JJ. That was the only thing hateful I may have said. I do not see in his movies the depth that attracts me to the originals and I am obviously not a fan, a position that based upon his success is in the minority. But an opinion I am entitled to none the less.


All that being said, maybe this was not the place to state that opinion, as it was not my intention to divert focus from the Trek for Rookies OP, or to garner a personal attack, but I stand by my comments.


I still say good luck to you.


 


 


 


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MCB

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Report this Jul. 16 2013, 6:27 am

Anyone new to Star Trek should start at the beginning of course with The Original Series ! Nevermind that the special effects are lousy by comparaison to what is done today, remember that it is easy today to make special effects. In 1966, the technology did not exist and they had little money to produce the show. What is important about Star Trek is the stories it tells and the Universe created. Even without the context of the 1960,s, the stories told in TOS are still valid today. So newbies should start with it. With only 79 episodes, it should not be to much of a chalenge for a younger generation with a shorter attention span ! Live long and prosper.

Dude108

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Report this Jul. 16 2013, 8:53 am

Admiral Bam Bam....thanks for the Memory Beta link. Will prove very useful!

MCB...One would think it logical to start with TOS or TNG. But people have different minds, which is why I'm going to cover all five series.

If someone had recommended DS9 to me first, I may not have watched any others. Whereas for some, DS9 is the perfect place to start.

One person new to Trek did actually tell me that they tried TOS but certain elements didn't agree, yet she enjoyed what she saw of VYG immensely.

Am really going to push ENT which is the next article in the series. Its a good way to set up the universe, and the editing might be a little easier on younger minds.

And of course, once one gets into ENT, they then might try other series.

And ultimately, one would think its optimal to watch all five! But unlike myself, last year watching all five series back to back, many people may not have the time.

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Jul. 16 2013, 1:58 pm

I just found that Crackle has made TREK NATION available for viewing.  I don't know if it'll help you iwth your articles, but there's a lot of history in it.


 


Oh, and please let us know when you post the rest of your articles.

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