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Will We Ever See Another Star Trek TV Series?

dafriska

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Report this Aug. 25 2013, 8:50 pm

Renegades

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Report this Aug. 25 2013, 8:56 pm

I have two very separate ideas for a series....not neccessarily plots but more of ideas in formatting a new series. 


1. all trek series were conceived as episodic shows with very few plot threads that move forwards. Yes, DS9 and ENT eventually became serialized but I want a show that is conceived and written with a beginning middle and end in mind. maybe let ron moore helm it. I think with netflix and dvrs the dynamic has changed since star trek has been off the air. We dont have to wrap everything up in a neat bow in 47 minutes anymore. Also, I think less is often more when it comes to dramatic television. Cut the season down to 12-15 episodes and take that extra time and money to work those scripts better and make a new show look dynamic. I would love something set maybe 15 years after nemesis where you could cast former trek actors as secondary characters who are running the federation while a new crew has to do the heavy lifting. I like the idea of layering a new story with threads of the older series. 


2. If that doesnt work for you....how about a star trek anthology series? No set cast or setting. each episode could float anywhere in the ST timeline. I am thinking twilight zone ala star trek. Tell hard sci fi stories in a star trek universe. 


Whatever they do I want a few things regardless.  


1. Let there be stakes! if your ship is going to fight every week then every once in a while a character has to die. The only time trek tends to kill characters is when the actor wants out of the contract. I am not saying do it for the sake of doing it but if you know that everyone is going to be fine at the end of the episode then it does kind of rob it of tension and suspense.


2. Let the characters be human. Look I love picard like everyone else but Trek sometimes puts characters as larger than life who always do the right thing. The downside is they are not as relatable. Its usually true that flawed characters are more interesting. Let the characters struggle with their humanity more. 


3. cast jeffrey combs as a villain. 


What do you guys think?


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Billsy101

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Report this Aug. 26 2013, 6:04 pm

Honestly despite all my wants, no. But if there is, either just after the TNG era or in between ENT and TOS.


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FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Aug. 27 2013, 11:54 am

It's getting close to Star Trek's 50th annivesary.  Maybe they're thinking of launching something then.  (or maybe JJ3 will be done then.)  I can see the gala now.  Too bad the Great Bird and his First Lady aren't around to enjoy it.

NCC-1864

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Report this Aug. 27 2013, 11:59 am

JJ3 will most likely been done then..but you never know


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Report this Aug. 27 2013, 5:30 pm

Due to the alternate timelines JJ Abrahms has created, I do not think that we will see a new Star Trek series from the original timeline. Unless they take use the movie cast and such to make a tv show when the trilogy is over. 


But I would definatlely prefer something in the original timeline. Don't get me wrong, I like the new movies, but it isnt the definition of Star trek. 

Captain Plunjer

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Report this Aug. 30 2013, 6:26 pm

theres absolutley no doubt in my mind well see another trek series.... the question is.. will we see one that has the same subtance as the ones we grew up with... things have changed since the last trek series... its not all that popular to create shows with the type of original thought that went into any of the trek series... its would be allot easier to mix CGI with breasts and fights and call it star trek.

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Report this Aug. 30 2013, 8:10 pm

I am also going to give Renegades a try on Web TV. I just subscribed on their email list. If it gets a good enough audience on Web TV maybe it will come on as a series on regular TV? Quite a few familiar faces are in it.

NCC-1864

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Report this Sep. 01 2013, 11:47 am

Saying STID had no substance is not fair at all...clearly you were not even paying attention to the film....it had MORE STAR TREK SUBSTANCE THAN TWOK...it had more metaphor and allegory than 'the best trek movie ever' so stop whining about it and be objective for once! The only reason trek would not have a new show is because nobody really supported ENT...if they made an action packed show that still told stories, it would be successful and 'true' trek...

Dammit Jim I'm a trekkie, not a doctor!

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Report this Sep. 01 2013, 12:06 pm

Quote: NCC-1864 @ Sep. 01 2013, 11:47 am

>Saying STID had no substance is not fair at all...clearly you were not even paying attention to the film....it had MORE STAR TREK SUBSTANCE THAN TWOK...it had more metaphor and allegory than 'the best trek movie ever' so stop whining about it and be objective for once! The only reason trek would not have a new show is because nobody really supported ENT...if they made an action packed show that still told stories, it would be successful and 'true' trek...
People have different opinions - either objective or subjective.  One could use your argument against those that like JJTrek too.  It's all a matter of opinion.

NCC-1864

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Report this Sep. 01 2013, 12:43 pm

But judging a movie on a point that is rather objective, such as its clear metaphors, should be judged objectively....and we have personally had debates concerning the new movies and you know my position on the movies...I am not saying everyone should love the new movies and that JJ is the savior, but there is a difference between not liking it and being unfair to it...I dont mind if you do not like the new movies, but at least be fair to them...

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JoCat

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Report this Sep. 01 2013, 4:30 pm

Speaking of ENT, the UPN network was not very faiir to that series in that they moved it around without really announcing what day or what time slot they moved it to. It took me and my Star Trek friends forever to figuire out what day and what time slot they moved it to. By that time, it was too late. At least that is what happened here in my area. I am very convinced that networks wiill do that on purpose to get rid of shows probably because they think they have  a better show in mind. I have seen other interesting TV series get booted right off the air without getting a fair chance. The networks think they know what the TV audience wants but there are times they are very, very wrong.

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Report this Sep. 02 2013, 9:02 am

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Aug. 13 2013, 2:12 am

>

>There may well be another series ... but be warned:

>You, the fans, failed to reward ENTERPRISE sufficiently.
Afterwards, CBS was glad to avoid the expense of another
series, for what marginal gains were to be had. In fact,
there hasn't been a new television series, since. So, if
you don't lap up the next CBS television offering, you can
believe that after its very short run, that will be the end of
STAR TREK on the small screen for many years to follow ...

>


AMEN! I can't tell you how many times I have tried to communicate this to other fans, and they just don't get it. They say they shouldn't be "required" to like bad Star Trek. But whether or not you think it's bad, it's your job as a fan to support it and keep it going. If you want to go around bashing it and trying to destroy it, like you did Enterprise, fine, but don't go around complaining when there's no more Star Trek.


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Captain Plunjer

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Report this Sep. 02 2013, 11:02 am

Quote: Sora @ Sep. 02 2013, 9:02 am

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Aug. 13 2013, 2:12 am

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>

>There may well be another series ... but be warned:

>You, the fans, failed to reward ENTERPRISE sufficiently.
Afterwards, CBS was glad to avoid the expense of another
series, for what marginal gains were to be had. In fact,
there hasn't been a new television series, since. So, if
you don't lap up the next CBS television offering, you can
believe that after its very short run, that will be the end of
STAR TREK on the small screen for many years to follow ...

>

AMEN! I can't tell you how many times I have tried to communicate this to other fans, and they just don't get it. They say they shouldn't be "required" to like bad Star Trek. But whether or not you think it's bad, it's your job as a fan to support it and keep it going. If you want to go around bashing it and trying to destroy it, like you did Enterprise, fine, but don't go around complaining when there's no more Star Trek.


 


My 1st post on this site was to vent on enterprise and why it didnt succeed ... below was 1 of the paragraphs... i think this sums up allot of what your saying ...  as there was a very real divide right from the start between the factions of trek fans and there duty to trek.


Part of the problem with why it failed was the creators of the show ….at the time,  there was no bridge between the older trek fans which compared everything to TOS and TNG…  the trek fans with an open mind and the newer viewers they wanted to attract. That bridge SHOULD have been the Trek movies .. but trek movies aside from a select few … have been a disaster … so what we had during that time was a show which didnt know which base of there audience to commit too.. and had no idea how to bridge them together.  we saw the lack of direction right in front of our faces when they decided to change the name of the show from Star Trek Enterprise to simply Enterprise in season 2... and then back to Star Trek Enterprise.


 


Ultimatley there viewers dictated the direction of the show… when the old school trek fans jumped ship, they were left with the open minded trekkies and new fans..it was only then when they finally commited themselves to a real direction. and they got it right... Unfortunatley, adding the Xindi wars meant abandoning the temperal cold war and every other important plot line from the 1st 2 seasons. Those unfinished storylines has always been a big problem for me… and im sure others felt the same way.


 


http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33380935/wasted-talent

Mugatu_for_Two

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Report this Sep. 02 2013, 12:34 pm

Enterprise was doomed from the beginning. The vast majority of fans hated the idea of a prequel. Berman and Braga and everyone else at Paramount knew that, but they went with it anyways. I understand they were trying to do something different to reinvigorate the franchise but it didn't work. Creating something new and signifigant and expecting fans to accept it as canon was too much.


 


I don't believe Trekkies killed Enterprise. It was because of Trekkies that it lasted 4 seasons. The show was DOA.


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