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Things will WIILL NOT see in JJ Abrams' Star Trek

1trekwars1

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Report this Jul. 12 2013, 12:10 pm

Quote: Vulcan merchant @ Jul. 12 2013, 11:43 am

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>(Well chator, in the few postings I have read, you don´t strike me as sexist or being a hater. I think I value your statements. Still, I understand we need to pipe down some times, me maybe more than you. But I also don´t think that Miss Granger here is a bigot or a racist, she just explodes with emotion, which is anyones right. I am full of dissapointment because of the direction the franchise has taken. To each his/her own.)

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Thanks....



At least you understand. What just pisses  me off about the attacks  on women  is all the sexist and racist undertones that has been used to describe it.



So far, the only thing  that trek got wrong about women is the  Carol strip scene, a scene which the producers have apologies for.


I also did not like the Chapel reference in into darkness and how she was just another sexual  conquest for Kirk but  Chapel is not a  main  character in the film so I guess I could let that go.


 

Vulcan merchant

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Report this Jul. 12 2013, 12:21 pm

Sure. I want to understand. That is my very goal in life. But I would request you stop using the word "hater". There is no hate, but dissapointment. I get your point, but it is a general one, we don´t really care who threw him/herself at who. Spock in the first place has no place with romance, more than being ridiciously often tangered with mental control or alien spores or whatever. Have you read my last comment?

crellmoset

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Report this Jul. 12 2013, 1:28 pm

As a sentient being Spock has a place for romance. In season 1 of TOS Spock flirted with Uhura in the mess while not under the influence of anything.

Ethics are arbitrary.

Vulcan merchant

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Report this Jul. 12 2013, 1:40 pm

It has place, sure it does. Vulcans feel everthing others do. But they tend to keep it to themselves. I just feel the Sock/Uhura relationship is nothing more than a failed attempt of wanting to leave open mouths that chatter : "wow, JJ really get´s it", because some of his henchmen Trekkies knew about that episode.

crellmoset

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Report this Jul. 12 2013, 2:34 pm

Hah, now I'm a henchman because I remember what the happened in the show.

*golf clap*

Ethics are arbitrary.

rob39874

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Report this Jul. 31 2013, 1:55 am

Everyone is crying about the Spock/Uhura realtionship in the film yet nobody has commented on the main issues in that JJ has rehashed a idea from one of the most iconic films of all time by remaking Khan. He copied ideas from WOK and TSFS and then said we'll change it sufficiently so some people will like it and will make me some money. JJ Abrams is killing the franchise. STID and ST 2009 have been two of the worst films I have seen. The characters do not even seem to have the same fire as the original and they only seem to have put Spock Prime into the film to try and appeal to the older fans.


 


If I wanted to see Kirk and Spock after TOS and movies had ended again I would watch those episodes making a prequel or a "Alternate Universe" just shows how lazy the writers and JJ were in trying to breath life into this franchise.


The Strip scene was even unnecesary and even though the producer apologised why put such a useless scene in the film. I know sex sells but come on it's not needed in Trek.


There is more reasons why I rate this film as one of my bottom 3 but can't be bothered to list them all. But for the people arguing about hatering or racsim or silly things like that.  Remember one thing Star Trek is what we love wether we love the new movie new cast or relationships or hate it we are all fans of the same thing and shuld try and get along

Kornula

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Report this Aug. 08 2013, 2:55 pm

Things that JJ does not give anyone in his films;


 


Characters


 


Story

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