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Using nuclear explosions to propel small satellites out of the Sol System

dryson

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Report this Jun. 25 2013, 12:06 pm

After watching the Evacuate Earth show, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nipCtIyWsL4 , and seeing that the Orion Project is the best hope for sending human made satellites into the depths of space at a faster velocity than is currently feasible using nuclear explosions I think that it is time for NASA and Private Space Agencies to re-open the discussion on the use of large scale explosions to propel a satellite through space.


Although Project Orion, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion) , ended because of the Partial Test Ban Treaty of 1963 which bans the testing of nuclear devices in the atmosphere, outer space or water but only underground has severly limited the Orion Project.


Basically when the nuclear bombs are launched and detonated their detonation yields a kinetic force that impacts the "Toilet Bowl Plunger" of the craft that absorbs the shockwave which then propels the craft forward. Estimatates suggest that using such a system would allow a craft to reach 7% the speed of light.


But how do we get around the Test Treaty Ban?


For starters the Treaty was written in 1963 when computer power was like the stone wheel. But in this day and age the computer power available along with the numerous Material Engineering programs NASA and other facilities use to test their rocket designs prior to lauching which can determine the effects placed upon the material of an Orion style ship very accurately and without deviation.  This means that all of the data related to using kinetic forces to propel a ship can along with the effects on the material can be entered and tested within the computer database itself where billions of scenarios can be ran to determine a billion different outcomes when using kinetic forces to propel a starship.


This means that such tests that would have been needed in 1963 that would have been live tests, which are banned except for underground, can first be modeled on a computer and then tested in an underground facility.


But after reading the most recent bans on such testing even the above scenario would pass the scrunity of the CNTBT


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Nuclear-Test-Ban_Treaty


....but there might be a way around the CNTBT that would generate a close copy of a nuclear explosion to propel a craft.


The idea is based off of the PASS Project, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_Acoustic_Shield_System , The PASS uses Synchronized Photo-pulse Detonation (SPD), a technology researched by Stellar Photonics wherein two short but powerful laser pulses first create a ball of plasma, then a supersonic shockwave creates a flash and a loud bang.


Basically the PASS would be employed in the same manner of propulsion used aboard the Orion. But instead of using nuclear detonations the process would used Plasma Detonations based upon the PASS Device, which such detonations are not part of the CNTBT ban on nuclear weapons testing.


 

miklamar

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Report this Jul. 08 2013, 7:34 am

I have mixed feelings about this.  The theory for this type of propulsion is good, but do we know what extent of fallout it would create?  I'm worried that, like too much warp drive in an area, this could rupture the fabric of spacetime.


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Nanomite

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Report this Jul. 08 2013, 3:18 pm

What the heck you talking about? Don't want to burn them up in the atmosphere as before so "flush" the garbage into someone else's yard? Insanity!

dryson

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Report this Jul. 10 2013, 1:33 pm

This isn't warp drive.


It's a plasma explody drive that would eject a stable element into space that when the reaction is triggers the sudden release of plasma would propel the vessel forward.


Another idea would be too develop some means of super heating the hyrdogen and helium atoms behind the engine to cause them to release their energy to propel the ship forward.


In space explosions are different.  A nuclear blast in space would not yield the same destructive potential that it does on Earth for the simple fact that oxygen is not present in space in a compressed state that further fuels the nuclear explosion on Earth.


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