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Should Tuvok have been first officer?

Zadonis

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Report this Jun. 26 2013, 6:32 pm

Quote: Utopia Planetia @ Jun. 25 2013, 12:26 pm

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>First officer?

>He should've been captain!

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Of all the post I read, I like this one best....even though I did like Janeway.


 

Zadonis

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Report this Jun. 26 2013, 6:35 pm

Wasn't a big fan of Chokotay, so yeah Tuvok would definitely been a better #1


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Report this Jun. 27 2013, 11:28 am

I actually really like Chakotay, but Tuvok is by far my favorite Vulcan character in any series. Spock is only slightly more popular with me out of nostaliga. I think Tuvok would've made a first rate second in command, and lest we forget, he acted as first officer on more than one occasion while Chakotay was out of the picture for one reaosn or another. I believe the main reason why Tuvok was not cast as first officer is mainly because two other series' had a Vulcan in that position.


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Report this Jun. 27 2013, 12:08 pm

Quote: GuardianAngel1 @ Jun. 27 2013, 11:28 am

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>I actually really like Chakotay, but Tuvok is by far my favorite Vulcan character in any series. Spock is only slightly more popular with me out of nostaliga. I think Tuvok would've made a first rate second in command, and lest we forget, he acted as first officer on more than one occasion while Chakotay was out of the picture for one reaosn or another. I believe the main reason why Tuvok was not cast as first officer is mainly because two other series' had a Vulcan in that position.

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Actually, at the time Voyager premiered, there had only been one Vulcan first officer. T'Pol came after Tuvok.


I think it was more interesting to have a Vulcan be a non-scientist.  They has Spock as an Enterprise scienice officer as well as Sonak, although he was killed. Selar was a doctor, which is a science. Saavik was pretty science-y. It was becoming a bit of a species stereotype. A Vulcan who was chief of security was interesting and showed a diversity in the species. 


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Report this Jun. 28 2013, 7:49 am

I liked Tuvok ans I would have liked to see him have a bigger role, but I think it was good to have a Vulcan as more than a first officer. It massively see something different.

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Report this Jun. 28 2013, 8:31 pm

I think Tuvok was the perfect Security officer. who else could have been more logical and methological when it came to solving crimes that occurred on Voyager and when it came to defending crewmembers who were wrongfully accused of crimes by alien races? With his fulcan characteristics he had the unique ability to find peices of evidence that no one else would have found. This is particularly true of Tom Paris when he was charged with a murder he did not commit. When Tuvok looked into it; he did a mind meld with Tom and found that someone had planted false mermories in him. Also being so far from Starfleet and any sort help, Voyager needed the best person possiible to keep the ship secure and be resourceful in not using up the ship's torpedo supplies whenever they went into battle. That takes creative and logical planning.

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Report this Jun. 30 2013, 6:45 pm

I always thought it was a bit ridiculous how a Maqui renegade was made first officer over Tuvok. That would probably never happen in real life.

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Report this Jul. 01 2013, 11:30 am

While Tuvok was probably more qualified to become Voyager's First Officer--after all, he was a Vulcan!--but it was probably the wisest move to incorporate the Maquis into the leadership structure, so they would feel like they were part of the crew and had vested interests in getting everyone home safely.


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Report this Jul. 01 2013, 2:13 pm

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I always thought it was a bit ridiculous how a Maqui renegade was made first officer over Tuvok. That would probably never happen in real life.


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Did you just bring up "real life"? 


A LOT of things happened on Star Trek that would never happen in real life.  Come on now.


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Report this Jul. 01 2013, 7:52 pm

Bunkey, you make a lot of valid arguments. What I am percieving, chator, is that you just don´t like the Chakotay character as a commanding officer. What is more than understandable, he is actually a rather weak and superficious character that helps exploiting indigenous folk as just nature bound hippies that share dream-catchers and have vision trips. Still, the show leaves no doubt about that the fusion of the two crews demanded that both leaders be part of the top hierarchy in order to prevent any uprising and to ironing out any differencies that may come up.


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Report this Jul. 02 2013, 5:09 am

why does everyone assume there would be an uprising?


 


seriously, if the maquis tried to have a mutiny and gain control of Voyager, what would it get them? They're still stuck in the delta quadrant

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Report this Jul. 02 2013, 3:41 pm

Right wlbwtree. I would not of chosen Chakotay as first, but i suppose it was nescary for peace on Voyager.

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Report this Jul. 02 2013, 5:47 pm

Well willowtree, like I said, it was crearly stated in the series. The first few seasons are mainly about the discord between both crews, aren´t they? (I am actually not asking) We do not need to speculate what good it would have done for the Maquis to rebell, but throughout the first seasons there was a constant dialogue between former Maquis and their leader Chakotay about why they should bow to a federation leadership. Seska, having her own plans, helped a lot to keep that sentiment alive. Torres also helped keeping this negative sentiment alive before becoming chief engineer.

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Report this Jul. 02 2013, 9:19 pm

And there was another traitor aboard Voyager, Michael Jonas, who also added to their troubles for a little while.

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Report this Jul. 03 2013, 1:14 am

actually she was promoted to admiral

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