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LeVar Burton on Star Trek Into Darkness

bunkey

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 1:20 pm

willowtree

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 1:24 pm

I just saw him at a con and someone asked him about Into Darkness...LOL

bunkey

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 1:41 pm

I'm guessing that as time goes on, more Trek alumni, especially those who worked directly with Gene Roddenberry, will be voicing opinions

shaun.black.5895

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 2:39 pm

Just plain bad.

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 3:21 pm

Quote: bunkey @ Jun. 17 2013, 1:41 pm

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>I'm guessing that as time goes on, more Trek alumni, especially those who worked directly with Gene Roddenberry, will be voicing opinions

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No, because some of them have class.


Ethics are arbitrary.

bunkey

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 3:25 pm

Airing his opinion about the movie when he worked closely with Roddenberry himself is valid.  That doesn't mean he has no class.  Just because you disagree with him doesn't mean he has no class. That is not how one defines class.

crellmoset

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 3:41 pm

A direct quote from a man who worked with Roddenberry long before Burton and unlike Burton made many good Star Trek movies:

"Wow… That’s impossible to answer. I don’t know. I don’t know what J.J. is going to do. I consider him a very good friend. I think he’s done a great thing for Star Trek. I’m very grateful to him. We all owe him a lot. When someone comes along like he has done and picks it up and elevates it, we should be grateful. So when J.J. calls me, I take the call."

Now give me all the excuses as to why he's "wrong".

Ethics are arbitrary.

bunkey

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 3:52 pm

Just because Leonard Nimoy likes NuTrek that doesn't mean I will say he has no class. He's entitled to his opinion. I strongly disagree with him and would not shy from telling him so if I had a conversation about it, but I respect his work and his role in Star Trek.  I like Leonard Nimoy a lot but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he says or that I cannot say he is wrong. Also remember Nimoy is on JJ's payroll.  He's an actor who's employed. It's probablty also the reason why John Cho has been indirect with his criticism for now.


You're always very combatative with people who dislike NuTrek. We get it, you heart JJ Abrams.  But it's not necessary to crucify every person who disagrees with you. I just don't think that saying LeVar Burton has no class for daring to disagree with you is a very rational or polite approach. 


LeVar Burton has also directed many more hours of "good" Star Trek than Leonard Nimoy and has clocked more time ON a Star Trek show than Leonard Nimoy, if you're going  to quantify experience with validity of opinion. 

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 4:02 pm

For the record, I'm simply okay with JJ's Trek. I am tired of not being able to hang out anywhere without people stirring up crap all the time, looking down on anyone who would enjoy JJ Abrams films, and making wild personal accusations against the man. It's very, very old. Everyone gets by now that there are many people that really don't like JJ's films and that's okay, but it feels like it's being forced into every environment.

I don't chase around Voyager fans and berate them. I watched the show and can talk about that particular kind of Trek without intentionally trying to turn the conversation into something ugly. Why can't people who do not like Abram's Trek give it a rest and just try to enjoy the entirety of our beloved franchise for a while?

Ethics are arbitrary.

bunkey

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 4:17 pm

When you have something like a reboot, it's going to be an active topic.  Honestly, no one forces you to read clearly labeled topics. There's political thread on this forum. I steer clear of them because I don't wish to engage the discussion.  If you're going to be on the movie forum, people are going to complain.  The topic is going to come up.  People are angry at JJ Abrams and have every right to be.  The anti-Abrams portion of fandom is not going to go away. I posted something about LeVar Burton's opinion and you know good and well how I feel about him by now, so I don't know what you expected. If I start a topic that involves NuTrek it's not going  to be a love letter.  So instead of steering clear of the thread of the debate you find tiresome, you click on it, read it, post a negative comment about a beloved cast member and then say you're tired of the arguing? So don't argue. Ignore those threads. I've seen a few NuTrek topics started by posters that get on my nerves. I simply ignore them. 


That's like saying you hate strawberries, going to a store to buy them, eating them and saying you hate them.

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 10:55 pm

hmm

willowtree

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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 5:43 am

Quote: crellmoset @ Jun. 17 2013, 3:21 pm

Quote: bunkey @ Jun. 17 2013, 1:41 pm

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>I'm guessing that as time goes on, more Trek alumni, especially those who worked directly with Gene Roddenberry, will be voicing opinions

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 so that means they can't say that they didn't like a movie?

No, because some of them have class.

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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 5:45 am

Quote: crellmoset @ Jun. 17 2013, 4:02 pm

>For the record, I'm simply okay with JJ's Trek. I am tired of not being able to hang out anywhere without people stirring up crap all the time, looking down on anyone who would enjoy JJ Abrams films, and making wild personal accusations against the man. It's very, very old. Everyone gets by now that there are many people that really don't like JJ's films and that's okay, but it feels like it's being forced into every environment. I don't chase around Voyager fans and berate them. I watched the show and can talk about that particular kind of Trek without intentionally trying to turn the conversation into something ugly. Why can't people who do not like Abram's Trek give it a rest and just try to enjoy the entirety of our beloved franchise for a while?


honestly it's because the people who voice a dislike about the new movies are often attacked and insulted

Calliopeia

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Report this Aug. 12 2013, 9:26 am

I agree 100% with LeVar's assessment of JJ's Star Trek movies. They do lack Gene's vision.

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Report this Aug. 12 2013, 3:58 pm

Dear Star Trek Fans


 


Why does Star Trek half to become something else to accommodate the average movie goer. Isn't those philosophical viewpoints what made Star Trek what it is today, I think you need those philosophical scenarios.


 


 

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