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Who was VOYAGER's best villain?

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chator56

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 1:19 pm

The Borg, I think, though they didn't make their appearance until late, prior to that I think it was the sand hippies, The Kazan.

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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 10:21 am

I really enjoyed the Borg episoes in Voyager, so I say Borg first, but the Kazon would be an easy 2nd for me.

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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 10:42 am

I loved 8472. the borg are a close second for me

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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 10:45 am

Yeah Species 8472 was really awesome! I wish they got a little more screen time though. We never learned all that much about them.

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Report this Jun. 20 2013, 11:45 am

Species 8472 without a doubt, the Kazon were just prehistoric Klingons with bad hair and the Borg reached their scare peak at First Contact. The Hirogen are cool and were a great hunter race and the Delta quadrant does seem to be against Voyager what with the spacial anomolies and telepathic pitcher plant but in the end 8472 steal the show for me. Their look and origin was so deviant from ST, they flew very cool ships with a great theme tune and could best the borg in space or on the ground.


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Report this Jun. 21 2013, 9:23 pm

I agree with you about Species 8472. They were just terrifying the first time I saw them. Their high pitched vocalizations and fact that one could not communicate with them very well added more fuel to their scariness. And I also agree that the music that played when their ships were flying by also added a dramatic tone to their presence. I think the voyager writers should have used them more often in that manner.

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Report this Jun. 27 2013, 11:52 am

As individuals, Species 8472 rocks the villain vibe, but since all of the above originate in the Delta Quadrant, I'd say the Delta Quardrant beats other quadrants to a pulp.


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Report this Jun. 28 2013, 12:40 pm

Quote: JoCat @ Jun. 21 2013, 9:23 pm

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>I agree with you about Species 8472. They were just terrifying the first time I saw them. Their high pitched vocalizations and fact that one could not communicate with them very well added more fuel to their scariness. And I also agree that the music that played when their ships were flying by also added a dramatic tone to their presence. I think the voyager writers should have used them more often in that manner.

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They intended to use them more. But since they were entirely CG, they didn't have the budget to use them that often

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Report this Jul. 02 2013, 3:04 pm

I would have to say 8472. They were very different from any other villian to ever be seen on Star Trek. I also loved that they had an emotional impact on Seven of Nine. I was a little dissapointed that they weren't seen more often. The Borg were also great villians, but Species 8472 had more mystery to it because no one had ever seen nor heard of them before, except Seven. 

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Report this Jul. 02 2013, 3:38 pm

I would say that the Hirogen are Voyagers worst enemy because they kept fighting Voyager and even took the ship onceand they were more powerful than the Kazon, otherwise i would of said Kazon, i wouldnt say 8472 because they didnt encounter them much, and they didnt see the Borg much either.


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Report this Jul. 02 2013, 7:47 pm

Let me be a wiseass and say the Krenim. Annorax, majesticly played by Kurtwood Smith, is the character with most depth and vision in the entire series. (Year of Hell Pt.1+2) He is not a villain per se, but is willing to do whatever is necessary to complete his own goals. He does not bother with morals because in his sight the end justifies the means. He is moved by personal discontent, and ultimately driven by his own sense of loss. That shows how petty one can really be, in the end we start wars and commit attrocities alsmost never for the plain cause of it, be it for a set of laws or of morals, be it for your country or for a certain group or ideology you belong to ... we do that things because we lost our dear ones and we want petty revenge, because we hope we can get somehow back, what was taken from us. Thats the reason why Annorax and the Krenim are Voyagers "best" villains.

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Report this Jul. 07 2013, 6:03 pm

When I saw this topic title, my first thoughts went to individuals.  As such, I think the best villain was Seska.

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Report this Jul. 08 2013, 8:40 am

Quote: Vulcan merchant @ Jul. 02 2013, 7:47 pm

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>Let me be a wiseass and say the Krenim. Annorax, majesticly played by Kurtwood Smith, is the character with most depth and vision in the entire series. (Year of Hell Pt.1+2) He is not a villain per se, but is willing to do whatever is necessary to complete his own goals. He does not bother with morals because in his sight the end justifies the means. He is moved by personal discontent, and ultimately driven by his own sense of loss. That shows how petty one can really be, in the end we start wars and commit attrocities alsmost never for the plain cause of it, be it for a set of laws or of morals, be it for your country or for a certain group or ideology you belong to ... we do that things because we lost our dear ones and we want petty revenge, because we hope we can get somehow back, what was taken from us. Thats the reason why Annorax and the Krenim are Voyagers "best" villains.

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very well said, that's an excelent point. I always loved his character. As you said he wasn't exactly a villian. you could sympathise with him, he was a guy that just wanted his wife back

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Report this Jul. 08 2013, 6:17 pm

Thanks willowtree. And buchworm, sure, Seska was the main villain in the beginning of the series, but even for all that secrecy and twisting development behing her character, to me she always seemed a little too transparent.

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Report this Jul. 20 2013, 1:46 pm

I did not even think of individual villians when considering this question. On that point, I would also say Seska who managed to cause problems for the crew even after she had died. I also think that the Hirogans caused Voyager the most problems overall but I still think species8472 was the most scariest and I wish we would have seen them more often and I wish that the Voyager writers had not befriended them with Voyager  so fast in a later episode. That was a huge disappointment!! I had enjoyed being "scared" by that species.Another scary species not included in the list are the Viddians (I and my Star Trek friends called them the Phage people).

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