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What could a new ST series be about?

jbssg33081

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 3:48 pm

star trek needs to return to the prime universe and it needs to return to tv...a couple of possible ideas i have always liked that i have heard from others and have come up with myself are as follows...


1. return to TOS/TNG form with a show that takes place between TOS and TNG...get back to the exploration side of things with story arcs that aren't all encompassing like DS9...place a new crew on the excelsior or the enterprise b...you can place the show in the early 2300's thus giving us a reason to have a different crew then the ones that have already been established...plenty of good ideas with this one possibly having the tomed incident and the first meetings with the cardassians, but this would bring trek back to what made it great...


2. make the jump like TNG did to TOS and set the show several hundred years into the future...technology will now be much better to explore the entirety of the galaxy and you can interweave stories about the hirogen, the dominion, and the ferengi all seemlessly together...our current technology is quickly approaching that of the TNG/DS9/VOY era shows just like technology advanced in the TNG/DS9/VOY era to match that of the TOS era...new technologies to explore along with new and familiar races in a milky way galaxy that is within a ship's grasp...


3. BSG meets DS9...a more serious take on star trek with much more character development and long running story arcs...have the focus on a fleet admiral commanding several ships in a particular area of space and several of the captains...the fleet admiral would be the focus of the stories like the captain of a starship would, but his interaction with the captains and crews of several ships in certain situations could make for a compelling show...not a huge fan of this one cause i like my star trek a little more fun but then again i thought the same bout stargate universe but i rather enjoyed it as well...


4. Star Trek in the 31st century...Now we aren't so much exploring space, but time as well...you could have episodes regarding space travel which is still part of their everyday life, but you could also have time travel episodes as well...i know time travel has been done to death, but with a temporal prime directive this one could still be interesting...call it Who Trek (not what to actually call it, but what it would resemble).


5. Star Trek: Titan has been mentioned and I am always for this one...

JoCat

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 5:50 pm

It is possible that the Borg could be a much bigger threat in that they were possibly absorbed by the Caelar species. That species could be much worst. As far as I know no one in the books has seen the Caelar species. Only they have heard of them and Seven of Nine encountered them telepathically at one point. As i understand it, it is unclear whether this new species is a friend or a foe. Anyone feel free to add or correct me on  this from what you know about the books.

Tribble Wrangler

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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 10:31 pm

I still say that an animated Trek series featuring the cast of the New Frontier book series.

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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 3:13 am

I've often wondered if the decision to make Enterprise a prequel was not a poor one. Star Trek is about looking towards the future and the premise of Enterprise was about going back to the past, in terms of where we were in Star Trek lore. I agree with the powers-that-be that 24th century Trek was at a dead end (or at least a crossroads). Voyager, as much as I enjoyed it, spent a lot of time covering the same ground that previous Star Trek spin-offs had already covered (space anomolies, aliens that psychically influence our thinking, shuttle crashes on hostile planets, bizarre holodeck malfunctions). I think the correct choice would have been to advance Trek to a whole new generation. Perhaps a distant future (Star Trek: 3001?) when the Federation had learned to travel to other galaxies (Star Trek: Andromeda?) where life was very different (NO humanoid aliens, for example). A time when the Federation had learned to transcend our physical and technological limitations. Maybe the Federation/Humanity had advanced to the same level as the Q and the stories on the show could be about when and where and how it would be justified to use their technology to help or hinder civilizations in other galaxies. And how such mastery over the very matter and energies of the universe might affect our society and culture, for better and for worse? Certainly there were compelling stories to tell during the time of Enterprise; the show demonstrated that pretty well. But I think it would have been better received by the Trek community as a whole if there was another series that took Trek lore into the future as well.

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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 4:12 am

@Tribble Wrangler
Nice idea, I was considering writing a section of this post about the possibility of a new animated Trek. The prospect of modern animation or CGI would defiantly make for a better animated show than the previous ST: Animated series and with that animation they could pull of more alien looking aliens. The problem being with the idea is that if they do an animated trek many people would see it as a kids show and not the gritty, intellectual, philosophical Trek we know. Although it's not impossible to make a serious animated series it would need to make it clear it wasn't for kids and even then the fandom may not like it.


I've heard about New Frontier, sound like a good series to put on TV and it would be good animated, I believe they even introduce M'Ress and Arex from the previous animated series. The animation could pull off several things not possible in live action, the voice acting prospect would be good to entice the TNG actors who may not look like their characters anymore and would give Tara Strong an excuse to add another half-dozen characters to her name.


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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 4:42 am

@Robin Bland
I agree, the movies are great but we need to return to the prime on the TV. I believe there is a book series with Riker as captain, it's called ST: Titan and follows him along with other known characters, Troi and Tuvok to name a couple, and a ton of new characters of all species. The ship they are on, the Titan, actually has a very diverse crew with fewer than 15% are human, that would make an interesting crew to base a series on but may be taxing to the makeup department. The series would follow the books but there's bound to be plenty of space for original episodes.


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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 7:28 am

Quote: Jeen Luck Pickerd @ Jun. 17 2013, 3:23 pm

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>On a compltely unrelated note, I diden't like how in star trek voyager the borg became way to easy to defeat. If there is a new series I hope the borg some how "upgrade" or something to make the a bigger threat.

>(I'm a whovian so I just had to say upgrade)

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how were they easy to defeat? The only time Voyager got the upper hand against the borg was when they faced a single damaged scout ship, or they had assimilated people inside the ship disabling it from the inside

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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 7:41 am

@jbssg33061
Wow, you have some nice ideas, mind if I critique them?
1. It would be interesting to see what happens in that time period, that time could involve first contact with the Cardassians and (officially) the Ferengi and the development of food replicators. That timeline has very few recorded events so who knows what kind of things could happen, first contact with a few races we take for granted, replicator malfunctions leading to disastrous consequences and the aftermath of the Khitomer accords. It would be an interesting place to make a series and would include a whole new crew. The only problem would be to keep the continuity of TNG in check, something Enterprise wasn't the best at doing.


2. I've been a bit against any huge time-skip, I feel that going forward at least a hundred years would produce technology that would solve many plot related problems. The replicators got rid of all object MacGuffins and the high warp factors got rid of the 'can't make it in time' plots in TNG, I fear that would happen in another large time leap. Plus ST already has the tech to go to the other quadrants, Quantum slipstream, that would make plots involving the Dominion, Hirogen and Ferengi possible. A time-skip is a good idea but maybe not as long as a century, maybe ten years? Twenty?


3. I really like the sound of this one, I like BSG as well as ST, plus we rarely see much admiral action in ST and when we do Picard is there to make the better decisions. Episodes could focus on how the admiral gets along, or doesn't, with the captains and how the chain of command can be twisted in crises. Maybe a few civilian ships could provide fun episodes, if this show has a fleet of ships there could be some completely devoted to families and entertainment to provide lighter, funnier episodes. I wonder why all these ships would come together, in Voyager: Full Circle there's an exploration fleet of ships heading to the Delta, maybe these ships are out to explore deep sections of space, maybe one of the milky ways satellite galaxies.


4. Again I don't like time-skips in the centuries but if time travel is involved this could be remedied. They could include episodes where they're stuck in prehistoric Qo'nos or entered an alternate timeline (mirror and Abransverse maybe) and explore historical truths that may shock the future, ie learning about the assassination to get the Romulans into the dominion war. The main problem, as evidenced by your title, would be trying to make it distinct from Dr Who which kinda defined the time travel genre. Also with all the prime directives floating about what kind of freedom could explorers have going through time? Would they be able to go to these places if they could contaminate the timeline? They may include the temporal cold war, it didn't work very well in Enterprise but it may work in a series based around time travel.


5. ST Titan would be a logical choice for a new series since it directly follows ST Nemisis, it would have familiar faces of Riker, Troi and Tuvok and introduce a host of new characters. I've liked the sound of Titan ever since I've heard of the large number of aliens on board the ship, would be a challenge for the makeup department but that didn't stop DS9. One problem is it's been a long time since Nemesis and Riker would look considerably older in this new series along with other actors. Another being that turning books into TV shows hasn't always worked and there may be friction between the book and show writers.


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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 9:43 am

@L.A.x2
Interesting idea, setting the series in the early days of the Federation, many species would still be skeptical of each other but the charter would make them hopeful for cooperation. Although the premise sounds good it's sort of the same themes explored in Enterprise with the early Federation and the planets still trying to trust each other.


Starfleet Academy existed before the Federation and when do the humans get weirder as time goes on?


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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 9:50 am

@JoCat
I think they are keeping the Caelar's morality unclear, to my knowledge anyway. They could be a bigger threat what with their assess to trillions of former drones and thousands of planets worth of resources but I don't think they've written about them in the books yet.


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Report this Jun. 18 2013, 10:41 am

It would be really cool if we got a new tv show, but I don't know if we will or not. Unfortunately, every single Star Trek show ever except for TNG, struggled for ratings. TOS and ENT in particular, and right now, Star Trek is pretty big in movie form. So I think for awhile, it will probably be limited to movies. I think it might be possible that after we get a 3rd film in the new Alternate Timeline, assuming it makes enough money, I'm thinking that they may go into TNG time in the Alternate Timeline, and remake TNG just like they did TOS. I think that would be pretty cool if TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT all somehow got a trilogy remakes in the Alternate Timeline. If that were to happen, than it would keep Trek busy for a good 2 decades to come at least!

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Report this Jun. 20 2013, 9:57 am

@ProgHead7777
I agree with your stance with ST: Enterprise but I don't think such a great time-skip would be good for a ST series, I would like to see a ST series set a few years after the previous ones but not as big a skip as you're suggesting. The whole premise of ST has been exploration and meeting the humanoid aliens, if humanity became Q-like in the series you're proposing that would remove all challenge and sense of exploration out of it. Going to Andromeda seems like a leap too far to me, there's still much of this galaxy to explore, even in the Alpha quadrant, and if exploration was to occur beyond our galaxy I'd expect it to be in one of the Milky Way's satellite galaxies.


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Report this Jun. 20 2013, 10:45 am

@Sora
While I like the movies too I would rather see ST on the TV screen. The movies are good for action, tension and storyline but they lack the exploration, subtle political points and morals that the TV shows gave us. I can see more movies made in the TOS minor timeline but you simply can't do the events of the other series's into trilogies, how can you show DS9's dark gritty elements and buildup to the dominion war in three movies? Or the long journey of Voyager in a matter of hours? Besides, more movies in the reboot timeline would reinforce the negative idea that the prime universe has been forgotten and replaced by something flashier, sharper but not necessary better. I believe we need a new TV show to remind people what Trek is about, preferably in the prime universe but one in the minor wouldn't be a total loss.


Plus we couldn't do an alternate timeline trilogy of ENT, the events in that series have already happened. The trilogies of films would keep the Trek producers busy but keep the Trek fans wanting more.


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Report this Jun. 24 2013, 9:29 am

@L.A.x2
From what I hear there's a tear between the rights of Star Trek when CBS split form Viacom, CBS took the rights to the ST series and Viacom kept the movie rights. Bad Robot wants a new ST series but after a row with CBS still selling William Shatner era ST toys, confusing the public with regards to the rebooted universe. CBS refused to stop and so Bad robot and JJ had to scale back their plans. It's a shame they can't agree on something that could be mutually beneficial to both of them.


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Report this Jun. 24 2013, 12:39 pm

I would really like to see either


A. The Enterprise-B (post Harriman, like April & Pike before Kirk) Excelsior Class.


B. The Enterprise-C  We know the end result, but we don't know the years of adventures beforehand.


C. The USS Kelvin   Like B we know the end result but there had to be years of adventures before the Narada.

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