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Rod Roddenberry

2takesfrakes

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Report this Jun. 13 2013, 6:14 pm

Why is such a fuss made over this man?
He had NO involvement in, or impact on,
the STAR TREK franchise! I think he'd
have been a lot cooler if he had his
own dream(s), his own vision, that he
was turning into a reality. Something
quite seperate and apart from STAR TREK.


But instead, he seems more like a hanger-
on ... who only got invited to the party
because of who his parents are. I have nothing
against him, but, at least, Liz Shatner
had something to do with the Trek phenomenon.
And when she was younger, she was pretty HOT!


OneDamnMinuteAdmiral

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 2:08 am

Maybe it is just a way for fans to feel connected to the long departed Gene?


Are you sure it isn't time for a colorful metaphor?

willowtree

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 6:01 am

I've seen him pitch his website at a few cons, it seems like he's trying to cash in on who his dad was

bunkey

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 6:11 am

That's a really callous and $hitty thing to say.


First of all, do you think Rod Roddenberry doesn't have projects of his own?


How about http://roddenberryfoundation.org/ this is a philanthropic project that funds non profits in specific fields?  He was inspired by his father's vision of the future to help make that future possible.


Or http://roddenberrydiveteam.com/ The dive team which is devoted to exploration and preservation of our own oceans.  


Rod Roddenberry lost his father when he was 17. That is a very young age and they weren't very close at the time. This is a man who is trying to learn and connect with his father's legacy, to understand it and the impact it had on him and then perhaps learn about the man he hardly knew.


Maybe he was "invited to the party" because who his parents are, but he has every right to be involved and  fans should welcome him with open arms.  He's Gene Roddenberry's son. If Gene had lived, do you think as a father he wouldn't want his own son involved in his legacy? What father wouldn't want that? And as for cashing in, it's a family business.  Businesses are handed down from father to son all the time. You don't know the conversations Majel and Rod may have had about keeping the merchandise sales going.


Have you even watched "Trek Nation"? If not you should and maybe you'd learn a thing.  And before anyone chimes in about "cashing in on the Roddenberry name". It's his name too. He has a right to be involved in what his own father built. It was his father.  No fan has the right  to judge that.  This is about a family legacy that's none of our business.  


Rod Roddenberry is on his own journey, learning about Star Trek and his father and he's contributed with some found documents and other things on http://missionlogpodcast.com/.  He's expecting his own child now and he may very well want to pass his parents' legacy on to his children.  


As far as Shanter's kids are concerned, two were in Miri and one was in TFF. That is hardly a contribution. They were just little girls visiting daddy at work, which is cool, but where you they had "something to do" with the phenomenon, I have no clue.


Sarcasm is my native language.
JJ Abrams is not of the body.

willowtree

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 11:18 am

Yes I've watched Trek nation and Roddenberry on Patrol, I've seen him pitch all his stuff, and in my opion it came off as him trying to cash in on who is dad was. I never said that he didn't have other projects, I know all about them.


and it is the fact that they weren't close and he was yong when he died that makes it seem more like cashing in.


I'm not saying that he IS trying to cash in, I'm just saying that's how it came across, whether that was his intenion or not, the three times I saw his pitch

bunkey

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 12:18 pm

My comments were directed more towards the OP, Willowtree.  


As far as "cashing in", that's a negative phrase that gives the idea that he's some greedy ungrateful chump.  If Rod is marketing and profiting from Star Trek, he has every right to do so. Gene and Majel famously started Lincoln Enterprises to make profit from Star Trek in the earliest days.  It's his family business and if he has marketing rights, then he certainly should make money.  I think most parents who build any kind of business or legacy from a simple family store to something as huge as Star Trek want to insure their child's future.


I don't think their not being close has reflection on the notion of making money.  Not many 17 year old boys, especially Rod's (and my) generation were close with their dads. Rod was a "metal head" kid, which was a very rebellious scene in the 90s (I was part of it as well). Gene was also 70 when he died. That's a huge generation gap too. A 17 year old boy is really not going to be that close with his 70 year old dad.  Rod's 40 now and is trying to maintain some control of the legacy.  I mean, if it were you, wouldn't you try to control some of your inheritance?  It's a business.  He has a lot of other projects and it's not like he's doing anything in bad taste to exploit the Roddenberry name.  I don't think he's doing anything wrong. It also may very well make him feel closer to the dad he hardly knew.


Personally, I'd rather Rod make money than JJ Abrams.

willowtree

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 12:27 pm

Quote: bunkey @ Jun. 14 2013, 12:18 pm

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>My comments were directed more towards the OP, Willowtree.  

>As far as "cashing in", that's a negative phrase that gives the idea that he's some greedy ungrateful chump.  If Rod is marketing and profiting from Star Trek, he has every right to do so. Gene and Majel famously started Lincoln Enterprises to make profit from Star Trek in the earliest days.  It's his family business and if he has marketing rights, then he certainly should make money.  I think most parents who build any kind of business or legacy from a simple family store to something as huge as Star Trek want to insure their child's future.

>I don't think their not being close has reflection on the notion of making money.  Not many 17 year old boys, especially Rod's (and my) generation were close with their dads. Rod was a "metal head" kid, which was a very rebellious scene in the 90s (I was part of it as well). Gene was also 70 when he died. That's a huge generation gap too. A 17 year old boy is really not going to be that close with his 70 year old dad.  Rod's 40 now and is trying to maintain some control of the legacy.  I mean, if it were you, wouldn't you try to control some of your inheritance?  It's a business.  He has a lot of other projects and it's not like he's doing anything in bad taste to exploit the Roddenberry name.  I don't think he's doing anything wrong. It also may very well make him feel closer to the dad he hardly knew.

>Personally, I'd rather Rod make money than JJ Abrams.

>


Well yeah, I'd ratheer Rod make money off of Star Trek than JJ LOL...but I only meant that his pitch at the cons came off in a way that it seemed like he was "cashing in" it may have just been his presentation, tone, whatever. It was like a sales pitch

bunkey

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 12:48 pm

I'd have to see it myself.  He may just be bad at public speaking.  


 


I also have a huge cush on him, too.  

willowtree

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 1:00 pm

Quote: bunkey @ Jun. 14 2013, 12:48 pm

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>I'd have to see it myself.  He may just be bad at public speaking.  

>I also have a huge cush on him, too.  

>


it may be that...and yeah he wasn't bad on the eyes

bunkey

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 1:19 pm

I remember seeing pics of him when he was a teenager (he and I are the same age). He had long hair and a leather jacket.  


bunkey

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 4:25 pm

I was just poking around his facebook. He's involved in the XPrize Foundation as well. All in all he seems to be a pretty okay guy. He cares a lot more about the enviornment than I do, that's for sure. He seems to be trying to actively make his father's vision of the future a reality.  That's pretty awesome.  So if he shills some stuff now and again, he's supporting a lot of good causes and has to generate some income on top of that.  


All joking aside about my having a crush on him, he does seem to be doing his very best to honor the Roddenberry name and what it stands for.    

heronymous

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Report this Jun. 14 2013, 5:01 pm

Is 2TakesFrakes , the real Jonathan Frakes ? I doubt it ! And it's so sad to see such an ignorant group of fans ! 2TakesFrakes and JJ Abrams have a lot in common . You're just like 5yr olds racing their new BMX down a steep street . And we all know what happens at the bottom ! Rod Roddenberry has his own website and production company and is an experienced producer , and is currently in production ! Find out what a dedicated Fan and Producer does - http://www.roddenberry.com/

2takesfrakes

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Report this Jun. 15 2013, 2:31 am

Really, heronymous ...
"You must learn to govern your passions.
They will be your undoing."


Let's not get personal, shall we?
It's most distasteful. Like these
boards, this thread is open to all
opinions. There is nothing vulgar
in my original post on this topic.
I stand by my statements and hope
that everyone interested in this
thread will actively participate in it ...


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