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The two things that could fix Star Wars


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Report this Jun. 09 2013, 10:45 am

If people want Star Wars to be good they should bridge the gap between the two genre/franchises: Science Fiction, and Science Fantasy. How? William Shatner, and Leonard Nimoy. Everything they've ever done has been really good. Who else thinks maybe even their characters would be a good idea in Star Wars: Kirk, and Spock?

You lied? I implied? The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. The needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many, or the few. The word, sir? The word is 'no'. I am therefore going anyway.


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Report this Jun. 09 2013, 2:03 pm

I don't get how that accomplishes the goal of bridging sci-fi and sci fantasy. BTW, sci-fantasy in one generation can become sci-fi in another generation, when technology catches up.


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Report this Jun. 17 2013, 10:58 pm

It's always bugged me that Star Wars gets categorized as science fiction OR science fantasy. In my opinion, Star Wars is pure fantasy, through and through. The science fiction elements in the movies are simply window dressing. Don't believe it? Just look at the reception the whole "midichlorians" concept received after The Phantom Menace premiered. Hardcore Star Wars fanatics AND casual fans were appalled at the idea that there was a scientific explanation for The Force. The Force is a magical, spiritual phenomenon and applying science fiction logic to it just seemed wrong to everyone.

Star Wars is about princesses and dark lords and knights engaging in sword play. The fact that it takes place in space and on different planets is completely superficial. In reality, it has much more in common with The Lord of the Rings than it does with science fiction. By the way, that's not a criticism. There's nothing wrong with fantasy fiction and Star Wars is actually one of the greatest examples of the genre in the motion picture medium. It's fantasy, but it's GREAT fantasy. I just wish that more Star Wars fans, as well as the general public, recognized exactly which genre it belongs to.


Pure science fiction (AKA, hard sci-fi) is pretty rare in movies and television but it's well represented in literature.


Star Trek is science fantasy because, while it pays plenty of lip-service to science as a philosophy and a discipline, most (but not all) of the "science" contained in it is completely made up out of whole cloth and is changed or bent to service the plot of whatever show/movie/novel it is featured in. Again, that's not a criticism. I love Trek. I just have learned to recognize it for what it is: GREAT science fantasy.


As to your idea of a Star Wars/Trek crossover, I think it would be met with a hostility (on both sides) no one has seen since Khan Noonien Soong sought revenge on James T. Kirk for the death of his beloved wife.

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