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Ideas for Star Trek XIII

Vicsage

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Report this May. 22 2013, 5:25 pm

Minus the Zombies??!!!   The Zombies are what sell tickets.  Seriously though, I could see a good writer doing a story where there are serious health side effects months later  to taking Kahn's blood. 

ScottRobot

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Report this May. 24 2013, 7:57 am

I’d like to see the Enterprise vs. some space entity, next go around. I’ve heard from the writers that was a consideration this time. I want to see this crew as explorers. I understand it has to be an event movie so it could be a Star Fleet joint mission with another federation ship, perhaps a female captain to challenge Kirk’s male chauvinism before her ship and crew bite it in dramatic fashion. I'd like the Klingons to be a thorn in their side while failing to be the ultimate baddie. Perhaps it would concern a Planet Killer(Doomsday Machine) looking more like a space amoeba(Immunity Syndrome) but there’s another form of civilization inside(For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky) though non-humanoid, still deserving of protection. A scene where Kirk can be the diplomat to enlist the help of the Klingons (less cheesy than Day of the Dove) perhaps there’s something to be gained for the Klingons as the Minors had with the Horta in Devil in the Dark.

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Report this May. 24 2013, 5:35 pm

I'm wondering if they'll try to bring Cumberbatch back. Something like a reluctant alliance with Khan.

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Report this May. 24 2013, 5:50 pm

Quote: ScottRobot @ May. 24 2013, 7:57 am

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This is actually not a bad idea, but the current crew of writers probably won't go for something like that. It seems like it'll be either Khan again or the Klingons next time.

ScottRobot

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Report this May. 24 2013, 6:24 pm

Well...


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ORCI: I hope that, in a certain way, we’ve earned the right to get a little bit crazy and maybe go more sci-fi? I’m going to flip this interview on you. What do you think? 

Star TrekWe wouldn’t mind a little less action, a little more character development. We’re not sure they need to beam down to Risa for a whole movie, but maybe even just a few minutes of them relaxing, like in that wonderfully cheesy campfire scene in Star Trek V, would be welcome…

ORCI: I agree with you completely. You brought up, jokingly, the campfire scene in Star Trek V. I love that scene. I love it. I feel like that’s pure Star Trek. Again, let the best idea win and we may not be around and it’s going to be a competition, but maybe we earned the right to do some sci-fi in this third movie and sort of have earned the right to do whatever Star Trek needs to be. We’ve done these two cool, big, action Star Trek movies. Are we allowed to do more than that now? I’d like to think so. You’re fromStarTrek.com. You know that Star Trek: The Motion Picture is panned by some people and yet, hell man, V’ger going off and becoming sentient is awesome. It’s such a trippy thing."


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I'm hopeful, but wonder who is going to deside on the "best" idea.

JimCrayne

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Report this May. 25 2013, 8:29 pm

I thought STID set us up very nicely for a new TV series with this cast. I am unsure whether that is a feasible possibility, but I'd definitely be keen to watch it.


I enjoyed that short exchange about the mystery technology in 300 year old cryo tubes. Mysterious aliens and intriguing technology are part of what makes for good Trek imo. I hope that is an angle they play up in the future, be it on TV or in the movies. We don't need a big bad guy or war driving the conflict.


I vote for an entirely new alien force. One theme in a number of star trek episodes that i can think of is good guys being altered in some way, changed and doing bad things because they are not their usual selves. I vote for a little more mystery-horror; action is fine but we've had so many star trek action movies now and this isn't starship troopers. If there is a evil villian in the next star trek, I say let him be one of the original crew, altered.


Whatever happens, It is a shame to have to wait all the way till 2016 for more Star Trek.


 

DS9_FOREVER!

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Report this May. 29 2013, 10:13 am

It wouldn't be a bad idea to involve the Klingons.


Instead of the The Battle of Narendra III & the Enterprise C, our heroes could find a way to prove the honor of humans and the Federation to the Klingons possilbe avoiding war. Looks like Praxis has already been over mined so the "climate" should be right. Our heros could foil a Romulan plot to start a war with the Klingons or something like that.


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moe.ives

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Report this May. 29 2013, 10:14 am

I believe Into Darkness is a pre-cursor to a major confrontation with the Klingons in the next movie.  Will the Organians be involved to force a peace treaty?  Would another power step in like Trelane/Q?  Maybe a new threat/empire will appear to unite the Federation and the Klingons?


What of Khan and his followers still in stasis?  The end of ID showing the augments still in their tubes reminds me of Spock's coffin on the Genesis planet?  Will they be back?  Will Kirk and Marcus do the bump and grind and spawn an offspring?

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Report this May. 30 2013, 10:00 pm

Oops, Now I find It. I started a 'what's next???' thread. 


So I think that interaction with the klingons is inevitable with events of Into Darkness. Question is what do you want to see happen?


If you want head on war you get left with who dies and what gets blown up. Cool looking but boring story.


I for one loved it when the federation a klingons cooperated to defeat the dominion, and would love to see that happen here. 


Then the question is how to bring them together? Common enemies seems the simplest.


So what would the unifying threat be? I vote Iconians, to me they seem to be the most mysterious and threatening. They are able to teleport anywhere and they used that ability to conquer. How does a civilization able to do that get wiped out completely!  


So the Iconians start wiping out the klingons and the federation gets wind of a hostile race and reaches out to klingons who reluctantly accept aid. Big epic battle ensues and the good guys win, those lost are mourned and a new alliance is formed based on the sacrafice of both sides.

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Report this Jun. 02 2013, 6:51 pm

Not everything needs to be a trilogy.


Make a future movie with Enterprise Z.


 


 


 

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Report this Jun. 02 2013, 7:05 pm

I would have a huge alien armada of giant beings pursuing the Planet Killer as it sweeps throw the most densely populated section of our Galaxy. Now, these creatures didn't build the Planet Killer, but they are taking advantage of it's path of destruction to conquer and enslave the surviving races of the planet Killers passage.
The Enterprise and the remains of the Federation must find a way to stop both before it's too late.
using Scotty's Trans-warp beaming, they are able to beam inside the Planet Killer to try and reprogram it...to attack only the alien armada.

Washburn

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Report this Jun. 02 2013, 8:37 pm

I'd like to see a Klingon War with a Captain Garth tie in.  In this timeline he still goes mad but the circumstances are different. He's fighting the Klingons and he's fighting them and beating them his way (not the Starfleet way) much like a Trek universe Colonel Kurtz. The Enterprise is sent to "terminate Garth's command".  


Of course there'd be plenty of Klingons to fight while pursuing Garth. Garth, while captaining a Federation starship also recruits races and vessels that are oppressed by Klingon rule. Like Kurtz he has a cult of personality that draws these people to him. This and the fact that his strategies seem to be successful make him very popular among his motely crew of a fleet and these people worship him even though he has them do merciless and barbarous things in pursuit of victory. He has convinced himself and his followers that such barbarism is the only way to win against such a barbarous race as the Klingons.


As for what drove Garth insane, perhaps his ship was overwhelmed and captured by Klingons and he and most of his crew are tortured and/or executed in particularly brutal ways before the Klingons were driven off by some of the freedom fighters Garth becomes the leader of in small but fast well armed ships These are the people who would eventually become his followers and make up a good portion of his crew. Of course, Garth and the remainder of his crew feel bound to help these people as much as to defeat the Klingons.


Kirk might hesitate to kill Garth, having something of a moral conundrum (plus Garth is something of a personal hero to him...Garth's victory over the Klingons at Axanar being required reading at the academy and all) whereas Spock would be unswayed in his and Starfleet's opinion that he's going too far and must be stopped by any means necessary, even if he is helping the war effort. Kirk might finally be convinced of Garth's utter insanity, something that illustrates just how dark his soul has become...perhaps the mass execution of Klingon prisoners, the destruction of a disabled and helpless Klingon warship, or possibly even the murdering of civilians.


 


I know...not a snowball's chance...


 


If not that...maybe a mirror universe thing.


 


Oh...gotta say though I'm not a fan of the zombie idea. Not that it isn't a good idea. It's just that I always thought the Borg were the Trek universe's "zombies". 


Tryin' the 2G6 circuit...

chator56

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Report this Jun. 03 2013, 7:19 am

Let's compare Star Trek (2009) with Star Trek Into Darkness, shall we?


Both involve a mad-man villain hell bent on revenge


Both involve hell-bent villain having a run-in with the Klingons


hell bent villain threatens Starfleet and earth in both films


Kirk goes from cadet to Captain in both films


Kirk goes after hell bent villain in both films


hell bent villain is defeated by Spock, not Kirk, in both films


And Kirk gets rewarded at the end of both films (In ST09 with Captaincy of the Enterprise, and in STID with a new ship) 


Gee, I wonder what the next film will be about?

ScottRobot

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Report this Jun. 03 2013, 8:06 am

They've tried to copy the Wrath of Khan formula several times with more success in 09 so they duplicated that formula (more desperately copied) this time. Paramount would never be willing to do anything too weird, obscure or complicated with this franchise because they get only limited screen time every few years. Since darkness didn't meet thier lofty expectations, the next will be lower budget. Cost of FX will come down and they've got some sets already built but more budget will be used on an actor with greater box office draw for the baddie.  

I'm can only hope the slight box office disappointment will make them look for something fresh, maybe JJ out of the director's chair will encourage them to seek another notable director. Don't hate, but Ang Lee could do great action AND character, even better made-for-3D... Charlie X meets Life of Pi?  I would prefer that over Star Trek Fast and Furious.

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Report this Jun. 03 2013, 8:15 am

Both involve a mad-man villain hell bent on revenge


Khan was not bent on revenge, just on getting his power back.


Both involve hell-bent villain having a run-in with the Klingons


Deleted scene. Doesn't count.


hell bent villain threatens Starfleet and earth in both films


The threat to Earth was more subtle; ie, threatening its peaceful way of life by militarizing Starfleet.


Kirk goes from cadet to Captain in both films


He was sent back to the Academy, but he wasn't dropped to Cadet. And Pike bumped him back up to Commander almost immediately.


Kirk goes after hell bent villain in both films


The same is true of pretty much every single TOS movie.


hell bent villain is defeated by Spock, not Kirk, in both films


Kirk's plan was responsible for the successes; Spock just carried them out.


And Kirk gets rewarded at the end of both films (In ST09 with Captaincy of the Enterprise, and in STID with a new ship)


New ship? That was just the refitted Enterprise. And of course he got rewarded for stopping Marcus and saving his crew!


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