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Star Trek Into Darkness Reviews

Trekkerhappy

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Report this May. 29 2013, 4:11 pm

I have seen this movie twice now.I absolutley loved it.I though it was even better than the last one and may be my favourite movie of them all.It had a terrific plot which kept me guessing and the action, fx, and humour were all terrific.I loved all the characters and really think Chris Pine and Zach Quinto ( along with the rest of the cast ) have really come into their opwn with these characters.

Thank you JJ Abrams for saving Star Trek and making some great movies!


''Risk is part of the game if you want to sit in that chair''-James T.Kirk.

bridgett298735

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Report this May. 30 2013, 12:27 am

I just got back from STID-I totally agree with Somniac and Marsroute66-It was HORRIBLE!!!!!No more JJ for me-EVER! Let him go play Star Wars!

Section31Captain

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Report this May. 30 2013, 6:08 pm

 can nitpick this film from start to finish and have my comment last for longer than it needs to be. First off, let's set the record straight. This is NOT J.J. Abrams fault. Yes he is the director and has the overall say, but he admittedly knows nothing about Trek. That responsibilty falls on Roberto Orci. This is the man that claims to be a fan and yet has ignored canon and continuity at every step. Take into considertation that he has stated ALL of what he does now with Trek is canon. If that is so, the current timeline in the novels MUST adhere to this and alters the prime time line as well. So it was decided to make Trek appeal to a younger audience, just like TNG did and I welcome that. However, after revitalizing what some incorrectly considered a moribund franchise, this is what Orci has  come up with? Khan Noonien Singh. Considered the greatest Trek villian of all time, a  flunky for Section 31? Khan revealing that it was admiral Marcus himself that awoke him. The CNC and head of Section 31 out on a star ship searching for the Botany Bay after the destruction of Vulcan? How did he know it was out there. Isn't that way too easy an explanation to have Khan the antagonist? Now what about his motivation? He knew about a Section 31 agents child being sick to set his plan in motion? It's all downhill from there. This film was convoluted and ridicilous. As a 9/11 famly member, the terrorism aspect wasn't lost on me and I want my Trek to reflect current events and deal with modern day issues.  However, NOT at  the exspense of integrity and intelligence.

warp speed

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Report this May. 30 2013, 8:20 pm

After waiting 4 years for a new Star Trek movie I was really excited to see this film. The promos showing an unknown villain dressed in black made it a must see movie for me. The opening of the film made me feel like I was watching an original story. That is until the villain said his name then I realized I was watching a redo. For me it went downhill from there up to and including the reversal of the famous death scene. This is the first Star Trek movie that has made me angry. If this is the same pattern that is going to be used for all future Star Trek movies then it looks like we can look forward to years of unexciting redos. I much more preferred the television series STNG, Voyager, and Enterprise. At least I knew each show would be an original story. I can't say it any other way. Special effects or not I don't like redos, retreads, or reuns. Can't anyone write an original story anymore or is that a lost art?

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Report this May. 30 2013, 9:00 pm

Quote: warp speed @ May. 30 2013, 8:20 pm

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>After waiting 4 years for a new Star Trek movie I was really excited to see this film. The promos showing an unknown villain dressed in black made it a must see movie for me. The opening of the film made me feel like I was watching an original story. That is until the villain said his name then I realized I was watching a redo. For me it went downhill from there up to and including the reversal of the famous death scene. This is the first Star Trek movie that has made me angry. If this is the same pattern that is going to be used for all future Star Trek movies then it looks like we can look forward to years of unexciting redos. I much more preferred the television series STNG, Voyager, and Enterprise. At least I knew each show would be an original story. I can't say it any other way. Special effects or not I don't like redos, retreads, or reuns. Can't anyone write an original story anymore or is that a lost art?

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It really is a lost art...

bridgett298735

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Report this May. 31 2013, 3:01 am

No not much originality left in anyone anymore.

JohnFourtyTwo

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Report this May. 31 2013, 3:47 am

Star Trek 21 Jump Street Part 2


This is at least the third time in Trek history that Moby Dick has been the basis of the story (revenge) not to mention the third-rate ripoff of Classic Trek episodes & a movie plus a TNG movie! The characters are worse than cardboard cutouts. Constantly uttering references from Classic Trek trying to be cute to the audience but only insults us. Too bad the characters can't get out of the 21 Jump Street mode because that's exactly what they remind me of. I can't blame the actors only the writers, producers, and director for turning out this plateful of tripe. They spend way too much time whinning and crying over everything plus Spock and Uhura's lovers spat and everyone's "growing pains" are nothing but distractions. I guess with today's ADHD audience it's normal.
 
I was hoping the reboot would be something new, not a pathetic regurgitation of stories that need no retelling. Is it too much to ask for something new? The only reason the production staff should look at the original series' scripts for is only to make sure they're not telling the same story again. If they make a sequel hopefuly it will be something new and not another Classic Trek ripoff like these last two movies have been. Hell, I'll probably be dead of colon and or prostate cancer before that happens.
 
As for keeping with tradition they're doing that by putting the main characters in the middle of everything even though these ships and space stations are fully manned with technictians from every field. There's no way Kirk would know how to fix the engines and should have had an engineering team in there fixing them. Yes they would've been killed in the process but they would have fixed the problem. This scenario was documented in a TNG episode where Troy was working on her promotion to commander but kept failing the command part due to she couldn't send someone to their death so they could fix the ship and save everyone else.

pixeljerk

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Report this May. 31 2013, 5:48 pm

It's a good Saturday afternoon popcorn show and I did enjoy most of it and then it bacame a bore. Bones saying "I'm a Doctor not a...." whatever 20 times, the endless fight scenes. It's all been posted in this thread.

Why do a remake of TWOK? Its a remake and a bad one at that. Grow some and try and do some thinking. Crap it makes me angry thinking about all the possibilities. Khan is not the Joker to Batman as Abrahms wants him to be.

Star Trek has endured throughout the years and will survive. This dumbed down pop music version will hopefully pass.

Kilrahi

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Report this May. 31 2013, 6:00 pm

How was this a revenge story?  Did we watch the same film?

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Report this May. 31 2013, 7:50 pm

I am a long time Star Trek fan and I  enjoyed the movie. In fact, I may go to it again.  I did not get to see the Star Trek 09 movie while it was in the theatre but I finally did get to see it and enjoyed that also. My one complaint is that the Romulans did not look like Romulans. They just looked like a bunch of tough guys with tattoos on  their foreheads. Why are they being stingy on the alien make up there? Oh well. I still enjoyed the shows and will be back for more. I do think that this new crew needs some adventures of their own not just repeat the scenarios of the original series. 

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Report this May. 31 2013, 8:42 pm

If I'm going to watch reruns I'll stick to the originals.


Kirk: Engine room. Well done, Scotty!


McCoy: Jim... I think you'd better get down here.


Kirk: Bones?


McCoy: Better hurry...

ofvulcansandandroids

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Report this May. 31 2013, 11:28 pm

Ok so I watched Into Darkness TWICE. Both in 3-d. I'm not much of a fan of 3-D because not many movies actually do anything creative with it. However I LOVED IT in Into Darkness. Now I get that Quinto isn't particularly favored as the actor of Spock, but I honestly don't see anyone else playing Spock other than Quinto. He looks like Spock, he's just got a little trouble on the no emotion aspect of it. The movie overall was pretty epic, but it felt like a sin to like the movie. It was both a remake and a completly new idea. It did linger in my mind when the 2009 Star Trek movie came out where Khan would be. So that is finally cleared up. And now they can't remake anymore of the Original Star Trek films because they ALL played off of Wrath of Khan. I was a bit dissappointed on the appearance of the Klingons, but it didn't completly stray off what they originally looked like. I honestly loved the story and how Kirk and Spock were switched in fates and the original series episode references. I only question that if there is a Star Trek 3, what the plot could possibly be. If it might refer to some enemy from the episodes (Mudd anyone?) or possibly Spock's half brother? Or will it be some completly new idea. I hope they don't invent a new alien. And even though I am just jmping from one aspect of the movie to another, did anyone else notice the Freedom Tower in the backround in the Earth scene? Gene Roddenberry would be proud. Well I hope you guys don't go crazy over my opinions, in fact I hope some of you AGREE to it. 


 


P.s I know I have an odd username. Someone once asked who do I favor Data or Spock. I called that huge arguement "Of Vulcans Or Androids" XD 

TrekForthMyFriends

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Report this Jun. 01 2013, 11:02 am

Quinto's Spock comes off as annoyingly comical to me. To the person who compared him to a punching bag for Kirk, that's right on. He takes all of the charm out of the character and turns him into an unlikable poster boy for mild autism. 


The whole controversy of the underwear scene for Alice Eve I think was more directly related to the fact that it made absolutely no impact/sense whatsoever. I felt dumber after having seen it, and not for moral reasons but for the sake of film making. The writers didn't even attempt to establish any sort of connection between her and Kirk, except this half-assed scene that was left unexplored thereafter. Her character was so wildly unimportant, which was unfortunate, as I was rooting for her. I wanted her to fit in well, her acting is nice, and her look is so in line with the classic Trek women. 


I thought Cumberbatch was great. Maybe I'm cheesy, actually I probably am, but I enjoyed him as Khan immensely...though it wasn't much of a twist. Simon Pegg is as always awesome, and plays a perfect Scotty. I wish I had seen more of him actually...


Ultimately, the movie seemed a little unfinished and bombastic, but I liked it. Really, I liked it quite a bit. I went with  one other Trek fan and two who didn't know the series from Adam and all of us enjoyed it. Particularly (and unsurprisingly) the two 'non-fans.' ST can be intimidating to some, and having it grounded for the masses in a way-that in my opinion-doesn't compromise its integrity is a wonderful thing.

Spectrum67

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Report this Jun. 01 2013, 1:03 pm

Quote: TrekForthMyFriends @ Jun. 01 2013, 11:02 am

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>Quinto's Spock comes off as annoyingly comical to me. To the person who compared him to a punching bag for Kirk, that's right on. He takes all of the charm out of the character and turns him into an unlikable poster boy for mild autism. 

>The whole controversy of the underwear scene for Alice Eve I think was more directly related to the fact that it made absolutely no impact/sense whatsoever. I felt dumber after having seen it, and not for moral reasons but for the sake of film making. The writers didn't even attempt to establish any sort of connection between her and Kirk, except this half-assed scene that was left unexplored thereafter. Her character was so wildly unimportant, which was unfortunate, as I was rooting for her. I wanted her to fit in well, her acting is nice, and her look is so in line with the classic Trek women. 

>I thought Cumberbatch was great. Maybe I'm cheesy, actually I probably am, but I enjoyed him as Khan immensely...though it wasn't much of a twist. Simon Pegg is as always awesome, and plays a perfect Scotty. I wish I had seen more of him actually...

>Ultimately, the movie seemed a little unfinished and bombastic, but I liked it. Really, I liked it quite a bit. I went with  one other Trek fan and two who didn't know the series from Adam and all of us enjoyed it. Particularly (and unsurprisingly) the two 'non-fans.' ST can be intimidating to some, and having it grounded for the masses in a way-that in my opinion-doesn't compromise its integrity is a wonderful thing.

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I find this to be an interesting post that I agree miuch with, and I'd like to make a couple comments off it.


The problem with Quinto's Spock as I see it is the 'romance' with Uhura... I find it a wasted aspect of the rebooted franchise and in my eyes changes things in not very good way... Also Spock's battle with the human side is not done as well as with Nimoy's... Spock Prime had a way to smile without smiling and use humor in an ironic yet subtle manner, and also could be perplexed due to his Vulcan side with an amusing style... This all I feel is due to both the new Spock's written part as well as Nimoy's brilliant acting... No to take anything away from Quinto with this.


As to Dr, Marcus and the underwear sceen... I take it as both a way to have that little tittilation that was also in the 2009 movie with Kirk, as well as to build a little on the Kirk character itself... notice the peek and little smirk... IMO her part is yet to come, and this was a way of easing her i with the Khan plot (again) and pre birth -- if that is in deed how they will precede in the alternate timeline -- She is now in the crew and we will see what develops.


I too like Cumberbatch although I didn't think I would going in... Pegg's Scotty doesn't work for me, although it was much better in this one than in 2009... I was disappointed with Bones in this movie and I detailed why in an earlier post, but I loved him in the previous film when he was more subtle and less a caricature of himself.


I believe that this movie will be better accepted and received by the new fans rather than the long time ST-TOS fans... and mayb by the other ST Generations... There is less to pick apart when you are new... yet still enough there for the old fans who have missed the Enterprise 1701 crew. The reversal of roles has grown on me as has the Khan tie-ins with the prevoous two Khan 'episodes'.


I'm eaagerly awaiting the next installment.


 

KelisThePoet

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Report this Jun. 01 2013, 1:32 pm

Soran, Ru'afo, Shinzon, Nero -- I liked some of these characters better than others, but each seemed like an attempt by later writers and creative people to recapture the essence and flavor of the Khan character from the original cast fan favorite.  Slapping a new name and some alien makeup on a classic villain template does not make it more original.  I thought Into Darkness' use of Khan himself was a far more original reimagining of the character.


Star Trek: The Motion Picture is infamous in certain quarters for essentially re-telling the story of "The Changeling," though I don't have a problem with it.


The original series of Star Trek only had four plots: the petulant god, the irrational computer, the alternate earth, and the inhuman creature.


Great storytellers always have and always will borrow from other stories.  It's the execution of the borrowed material that matters.


Falor was a prosperous merchant who went on a journey to gain greater awareness: Through storms he crossed the Voroth Sea/ To reach the clouded shores of Raal/ Where old T’Para offered truth./ He traveled through the windswept hills/ And crossed the barren Fire Plains/ To find the silent monks of Kir./ Still unfulfilled, he journeyed home/ Told stories of the lessons learned/ And gained true wisdom by the giving. – Falor’s Journey, “Innocence”

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