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A Matter of Perspective: Alternate Ending

J_schinderlin56

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Report this May. 13 2013, 5:51 pm

I decided to make a video to point out a plothole in the episode. Please discuss.


http://youtu.be/7xfvhsfHWlA

stovokor2000-A

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Report this May. 13 2013, 6:10 pm

nice vid.....wheres the plot hole?


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J_schinderlin56

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Report this May. 13 2013, 7:10 pm

I would hope that the end of the video clearly defined the plot hole. The Kregor Wave generator destroyed the space station when it overloaded. The holographic version was so accurate that it was burning holes in Enterprise so....

stovokor2000-A

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Report this May. 13 2013, 11:07 pm

think about it........you know how smart the crew is


 


dont think LaForge, Weasly and Data would have thought of that and corrected for it in the simulation???


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J_schinderlin56

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Report this May. 14 2013, 9:20 am

One would hope that they would, but at the same time the whole premise of the episode was that even though the holodeck couldn't create anything dangerous, it did on accident. When they were writing the episode, the writers brought this Dr. Kregor guy in and asked him how the holodeck might be able to create this radiation even with the safe guards. 


He told theme that if the hographic reactor was just a series of mirrors and reflective coils, and if the energy was coming from an outside source (the field generator) then the reactor would still channel the outside energy into these "Kregor waves". Kind of like using a magnifying glass to start a fire with sunlight. Holographic or not, the reactor would still process the outside energy the same way


The reactor was using real outside energy from the field generator, not simulated energy. When the real converter processed the energy, and the energy bounced off of the transporter beam and overloaded the real reactor, it lead to an explosion big enough to destroy the space station. So if the holographic reactor worked exactly the same way, and processed the same outside energy, the possibility certainly would exist that a similar overload would create an explosion that would destroy the Enterprise, not just a simulation.


Also, the whole point of the experiment was to prove Riker's innocence by allowing the reactor to convert the real energy in exactly the same way. If the rigged the simulation to where only a simulated explosion occurred, then they would be rigging the experiment to go the way they wanted (essentially lying) to make Riker look innocent. So for the experiment to work, they would have to let the holographic reactor convert the real energy from the field generator the same way the real reactor did, or the experiment wouldn't be valid.

stovokor2000-A

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Report this May. 14 2013, 9:31 am

Quote: J_schinderlin56 @ May. 14 2013, 9:20 am

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style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-family: Verdana;">One would hope that they would, but at the same time the whole premise of the episode was that even though the holodeck couldn't create anything dangerous, it did on accident. When they were writing the episode, the writers brought this Dr. Kregor guy in and asked him how the holodeck might be able to create this radiation even with the safe guards. 

style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-family: Verdana;">He told theme that if the hographic reactor was just a series of mirrors and reflective coils, and if the energy was coming from an outside source (the field generator) then the reactor would still channel the outside energy into these "Kregor waves". Kind of like using a magnifying glass to start a fire with sunlight. Holographic or not, the reactor would still process the outside energy the same way

style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-family: Verdana;">The reactor was using real outside energy from the field generator, not simulated energy. When the real converter processed the energy, and the energy bounced off of the transporter beam and overloaded the real reactor, it lead to an explosion big enough to destroy the space station. So if the holographic reactor worked exactly the same way, and processed the same outside energy, the possibility certainly would exist that a similar overload would create an explosion that would destroy the Enterprise, not just a simulation.

style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-family: Verdana;">Also, the whole point of the experiment was to prove Riker's innocence by allowing the reactor to convert the real energy in exactly the same way. If the rigged the simulation to where only a simulated explosion occurred, then they would be rigging the experiment to go the way they wanted (essentially lying) to make Riker look innocent. So for the experiment to work, they would have to let the holographic reactor convert the real energy from the field generator the same way the real reactor did, or the experiment wouldn't be valid.

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I'm sorry but your wrong about that.


How many murder investigations rely on recreations that actully use real people,amuntions and allow for those doing the experament to be killed?


When re-creating murders/assinations they use stand ins for the humans killed, watermellons, dummies all sorts of things.And they sometimes use special arms [not offten but sometimes] to simulate how things happened.


Same goes for the holo reactor, they only needed to program it to simulate what would happen if it had been the real reactor.


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J_schinderlin56

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Report this May. 14 2013, 9:41 am

Except thats not what they did. They timed the simulation to coincide with the real energy burst from the real field generator so that the simulated reactor would process the outside energy the same way the real reactor would.


The holo reactor was not a watermelon. It was an exact re creation of the real reactor, so real infact that it was punching holes in the Enterprise hull. And the engergy from the field generator was real energy.

stovokor2000-A

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Report this May. 14 2013, 9:59 am

Quote: J_schinderlin56 @ May. 14 2013, 9:41 am

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style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-family: Verdana;">Except thats not what they did. They timed the simulation to coincide with the real energy burst from the real field generator so that the simulated reactor would process the outside energy the same way the real reactor would.

style="margin: 0px 0px 10px; font-family: Verdana;">The holo reactor was not a watermelon. It was an exact re creation of the real reactor, so real infact that it was punching holes in the Enterprise hull. And the engergy from the field generator was real energy.

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Thats exactly what they did.


At the start of the trail the simulation was an exact re creation of the real reactor,like you said, it was so real that it was punching holes in the Enterprise hull.But once they discovered what was creatring the dangerous holes all over he ship they would have redered it harless,or do you really think they would put the ship in further danger??


and in figuring out what was burning those holes they also discovered what destroyed the station.....so to save Riker,they reprogram the simulation to be harless, timed the simulation to coincide with the real energy burst from the real field generator so that the simulated reactor would process the outside energy the same way the real reactor would and simulate the explosion.The holo reactor was rendured harless,so it was, in other words a watermelon.


 


 


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J_schinderlin56

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Report this May. 14 2013, 7:29 pm

Here's another alternate ending to the same episode.


http://youtu.be/-GqGn1wRSx0

stovokor2000-A

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Report this May. 14 2013, 9:22 pm

Quote: J_schinderlin56 @ May. 14 2013, 7:29 pm

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>Here's another alternate ending to the same episode.

>http://youtu.be/-GqGn1wRSx0

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I find that one funny


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J_schinderlin56

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Report this May. 17 2013, 5:10 pm

Here are two more endings to that episode:


http://youtu.be/OQCXfkzcE8Y


My favorite, ending 4 - Riker's deposition


http://youtu.be/PFRbADaOLbA

stovokor2000-A

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Report this May. 18 2013, 5:01 pm

no as funny


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