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A very thoughtful article about the casting choices in Star Trek Into Darkness

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Report this May. 15 2013, 2:12 am

Quote: Treknoir @ May. 14 2013, 7:15 am

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>I was ticked at the whitewashing for Avatar the Last Airbender too.

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Goodness. You must be the first person I've come across to feel any emotion at all about that non-entity of a film! *Or perhaps I've just forgotten all previous references.


 


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Report this May. 16 2013, 9:01 am

I'm personally hoping George Takei, who was very vocal about whitewashing in Akira, will speak up, but I'm not counting on it.


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Report this May. 19 2013, 6:55 am

John Cho had cast ever so subtle shade on the casting choice (forward to 1:45)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adfGdgu6w4s


 


And Garrett Wang has weighed in:


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Report this May. 19 2013, 8:21 am

Quote: Treknoir @ May. 13 2013, 1:00 pm

Quote: bunkey @ May. 11 2013, 4:59 am

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>Imagine, just imagine how popular the new Star Trek movie may have been overseas in Asia if they had cast a well known Bollywood actor as one of the most legendary villain in cinema history

>Really, I don't think that anyone thought outside the box with this.  They just saw money.

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I think it was more than just money. It's a mindset. As you mentioned, Bollywood is a multi-billion dollar industry with literally a billion potential consumers. I know they tried to hire at least two Latino actors, but why wasn't the goal to hire someone closer to Khan's stated ethnicity from the get go? If they tried and it didn't work out, I could see getting whoever they could. But they didn't even try. It was never in the plan.


I would be curious to know what the actual casting plan was and their ultimate reasons for going with Cumberbatch. We can read all sorts of sinister plans in to their motivation that we want but it doesn't make it true.


If they "whitewashed" Khan's role, then I'm disappointed to as it shows the still racist attitude built within Hollywood, but I find the decision no less racist or hateful than any other racist choices in Trek history, including TOS, TNG and VOY.


I wish fans could be just as offended by those

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Report this May. 19 2013, 8:28 am

Well considering they started out with Latinos, casting Benicio Del Toro, that kind of indicates that they never even considered the source material or Desi actors.  I can't help but see ulterior motives to keeping the character in the film under such cockbending secrecy. 


 


No one is excusing previous flubs in Trek history, but the fact is we're here, in 2013, and we should have learned by now.

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Report this May. 19 2013, 8:42 am


No one is excusing past flubs, yet we keep running to past shows for inspiration and defense of Star Trek's legacy.



Its hard to swallow the racist accusations when TOS and other shows are held up as standards of virtue and Abrams is derided at every turn.


And, we can read in to their motivation all we want but I'll wait to hear their statements on the matter.

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Report this May. 19 2013, 8:49 am

Funny that no one has addressed the issue. And I doubt they will.  The only one who even alluded to it was John Cho.

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Report this May. 19 2013, 9:26 am

Quote: bunkey @ May. 19 2013, 8:28 am

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>Well considering they started out with Latinos, casting Benicio Del Toro, that kind of indicates that they never even considered the source material or Desi actors.  I can't help but see ulterior motives to keeping the character in the film under such cockbending secrecy.


the fact that they originally casted Benicio Del Toro for the role in quesion, proves that they did INDEED,  considered the source material


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Report this May. 19 2013, 9:31 am

Quote: bunkey @ May. 19 2013, 8:49 am

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>Funny that no one has addressed the issue. And I doubt they will.  The only one who even alluded to it was John Cho.

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It seems that Abrams and Co is only capable of sinning in the worst possible ways now...


Given the secrecy placed on Benedict's character I'm not surprised that it wasn't talked about. Now that it is out, there might be more discussion.

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Report this May. 20 2013, 9:50 am

2:09


John Cho, Master of Shade Throwing.


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftfA_vefeik


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Report this May. 20 2013, 9:56 am

Quote: bunkey @ May. 20 2013, 9:50 am

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>2:09

>John Cho, Master of Shade Throwing.

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftfA_vefeik

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CTFU I watched both clips and, yes, his shade made me quite chilly.


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Report this May. 20 2013, 10:04 am

He's been throwing it around like really strong hot sauce.  He uses a drop, but it burns!


I have newfound love for him.

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Report this May. 20 2013, 10:38 pm

Did yall catch the Zoe Saldana bit in the last clip? With that, along with the recent interview she gave to Clutch, she's looking more and more like the Rhiana of acting.

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Report this May. 20 2013, 10:40 pm

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If they "whitewashed" Khan's role, then I'm disappointed to as it shows the still racist attitude built within Hollywood, but I find the decision no less racist or hateful than any other racist choices in Trek history, including TOS, TNG and VOY.


I wish fans could be just as offended by those


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Yea, you're right -- many aspects of those shows were very, very bad. We actually should have a thread about that. I came across a blog months back where someone was planning a kind of casual analysis of African American men in star trek. It looked like it was gonna be really, really good. Too bad it never panned out. Might be fun to do something like that here.

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Report this May. 21 2013, 3:24 pm

Whatever The Plot Is For the Next Film; Somebody PLEASE, Cast KATE UPTON As YEOMAN JANICE RAND! thank you!

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