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Star Trek, Star Wars and JJ Abrahms

wagontraintothestars1968

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Report this May. 05 2013, 12:43 am

Quote: Trekkie770 @ Apr. 30 2013, 2:44 pm

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>A few things. Number one, why is R2-D2 seen in 2009 Star Trek movie? (Enterprise warps into debris from the destroyed armada by Nero. R2-D2 flies across the left part of the screen). Why did JJ do that? Second, a rumor floating aroung that George Takai is considering a role in the new DISNEY owned Star Wars Film which would be a traitorous move. Third, JJ directs a Star Trek movie then moves to do a Star Wars movie? Then what? Go Back and make a third Star Trek movie afterwards? What is going on here?? When I saw R2-D2 in the 2009 Star Trek movie I was PISSED! I dont have anything against Star Wars but being a Trekker, I feel that there are lines you just don't cross. Any Thoughts?

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don't forget the millenium falcon fly by during the battle scene with the borg cube in first contact.

OtakuJo

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Report this May. 05 2013, 12:55 am

True to that. Star Trek abounds with nods & winks to other fictional stories.


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Report this May. 05 2013, 2:48 pm

ILM has a history of throwing in Star Wars images into all the feature films it does effects for.


The Millennium Falcon was in First Contact

Somniac

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Report this May. 08 2013, 5:14 am

R2D2 is in the movie presumably because JJ just can't help plugging himself and his achievements.


It's a jerk off.


Nothing more.

stovokor2000-A

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Report this May. 08 2013, 5:27 am

Quote: Somniac @ May. 08 2013, 5:14 am

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>R2D2 is in the movie presumably because JJ just can't help plugging himself and his achievements.

>It's a jerk off.

>Nothing more.

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So..................how is R2D2 an achievement of JJ's 3 years before he was offered the SW franchise?


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Somniac

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Report this May. 09 2013, 1:26 am

Sorry. Maybe he was touting to Disney for the job. The continuation/reboot of SW has been rumoured for years and both being Paramount (at the time) he must have known it was on the cards in 2009.


Anyway, as he says working on Star Wars may prevent him making Star Trek 3 (so much for loyalty to the franchise. Abrams has used ST to carve his way into the most sought after job in the business)


the news is not all bad.


 


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stovokor2000-A

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Report this May. 09 2013, 1:42 am

Quote: Somniac @ May. 09 2013, 1:26 am

>Sorry. Maybe he was touting to Disney for the job. The continuation/reboot of SW has been rumoured for years and both being Paramount (at the time) he must have known it was on the cards in 2009.

>Anyway, as he says working on Star Wars may prevent him making Star Trek 3 (so much for loyalty to the franchise. Abrams has used ST to carve his way into the most sought after job in the business)

>the news is not all bad.


Sorry, I dont by it.


Those kind of rumoures have been around saince the late 90's.Theres no reason to believe that anyone felt the chances that Lucus would let go of SW were any better in 2009 then they were in 1999.


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Report this May. 09 2013, 7:59 am

Yeah, let the fan conspiracy theories abound with this one.


R2 was put in by ILM just like they did the above mentioned Millennium Falcon in First Contact. ILM has put R2 in almost every work they have done, including "Close Encounters of the Third Kind."


Abrams wasn't begging for Star Wars anymore than Cloverfield was begging for Star Trek in 2008.


The fact that Lucas sold Lucasfilm came as a shock to the industry and many names were considered for director. Joss Whedon was wanted but couldn't due to Avengers 2. 


But please don't let me interrupt the conspiracy theories with my ideas...

Somniac

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Report this May. 09 2013, 2:44 pm

Too late.

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Report this May. 31 2013, 1:34 pm

Forgive me for posting this here as I cannot start a new topic, but I am new to Star Trek for the most part as I've only seen some episodes of TNG here and there and I am finding myself wanting to get into it a bit more, where should I start? Are the movies a good place to start?

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Report this May. 31 2013, 2:18 pm

Nimoy is on record saying he wants to be in Abrams' Episode VII, go read the interview on this site, even if Sulu is an April Fool's gag. I can see Sulu with a lightsaber, but why have Nimoy?

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Report this May. 31 2013, 2:48 pm

@jdw89 Welcome to the Trek Universe! Have you seen the new movie that's out now? My .02 cents would be to start with the television shows since Trek is better suited for character development on TV. You'll find different fans like different things. Some like it all and some only like certain shows. Movies are good but beware of Star Trek V & TNG's Insurrection lol. My favorites in order as far as TV goes is TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager & Enterprise. This site now has all TV shows up and running so you can stay right here to watch everything but the movies if you want. I'd be interested in hearing back in a couple of months to find out your opinions after you've had time to wade in and get your feet wet. Live Long & Prosper! \\//

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Report this May. 31 2013, 2:56 pm

Quote: chator56 @ May. 31 2013, 2:18 pm

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>Nimoy is on record saying he wants to be in Abrams' Episode VII, go read the interview on this site, even if Sulu is an April Fool's gag. I can see Sulu with a lightsaber, but why have Nimoy?

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I think they'd both be good. And hey, you take work where you can get it in Hollywood. If the shoe fits... (I might have cringed at the idea of casting Samuel L. Jackson, once upon a time...) then why deny anyone the chance for an acting gig?


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Report this May. 31 2013, 7:05 pm

Quote: Vger23 @ May. 01 2013, 6:24 am

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>I don't see why any of it matters. Why get "PISSED" about an homage placed in a 2-second f/x scene in a movie? Sci fi movies do that kind of thing all the time. Life is too short. There are other things to be "PISSED" about.

>Who cares what movies JJ Abrams directs when he's not working on Star Trek? It's Hollywood. These people are in the movie-making business. I don't know where fans get this strange impression that movie directors / producers / writers are somehow being "disloyal" if they go to work on other projects. It's absolutely ridiculous.

>Who cares what George Takei decides to do? He's an actor, he can do whatever he wants. There's nothing in his contract that forbids him from working on other projects. Christ.  

>People need to get past this insecure "Trek vs. Wars" crap and move on. As Holo pointed out, this isn't WWII or Yankees vs. Red Sox. They're two entertainment franchises. Nobody gets a medal or control of the globe for being more popular than the other. Relax. 

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Report this Jun. 01 2013, 6:44 am

I also like both Star Trek and Star Wars. They are both full of adventure, action, intense drama, sometimes tragedy, comedy, and are just plain fun to watch. And isn't that the point of entertainment? I do some science fiction and fantacy reviews and let me tell you, there is some really bad sci fi stuff out there. Star Trek and Star Wars raise the bar to a very high level and therefore both have endured for a long time.

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