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KIRK'S shirt is GREEN

Gawain_VIII

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Report this Apr. 16 2013, 6:02 am

Yes, the gold uniforms were physically green originally velour, by the 3rd season, it changed to a double-knit fabric... Bill Theiss called it lime green, but the one's I've seen at Cons look a lighter yellow-green, almost chartruece.  The pants were gray flecked with silver glitter--but due to lighting they looked gold and black, respectively.


The green captain's variant wraparounds and dress uniforms appeared green on-screen because they used a different fabric (cotton tweed and silk, I think) which reflected the light differently.


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lonstar70

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Report this Apr. 17 2013, 8:04 pm

There was the DS9 episode when they went back in time to "The Trouble with Tribbles" Where the DS9 crew were talking about the colors of the uniform. Sisko or some one said "Gold was a command color in this time period." He didn't say green He also said the rank was discernible depending on the number of ribbons on the sleeves.


 


But I totally agree that the "wrap around" shirt Kirk wore was definitely olive green. The other one was "gold".

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Report this Apr. 17 2013, 8:51 pm

Quote: lonstar70 @ Apr. 17 2013, 8:04 pm

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>There was the DS9 episode when they went back in time to "The Trouble with Tribbles" Where the DS9 crew were talking about the colors of the uniform. Sisko or some one said "Gold was a command color in this time period." He didn't say green


if you read thru the entire thread you'll see that this issue was covered already in 1 of my post.Here it is again.


yes, in DS9's"Trouble and tribulations" the color was stated to be gold because most fans think the color is gold, it gold in every episode and most pictures taken.


It looked gold on film due to the matrial that was used and the bright lighting.So instead of explaining things in the episode they went with what it looks like and what most fans believe..


again look at these 2 pics of the same uniform, actull prop


the first pic was taken with no flash and standard lights.You can see the greenish color


the 2nd pic, same uniform, was taken with the flash and bright display lights


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Report this Apr. 22 2013, 11:06 am

I didn't know the original "gold" shirt was actually green. Learned something new about ST today.


 


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Report this Apr. 26 2013, 4:38 pm

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I didn't know the original "gold" shirt was actually green. Learned something new about ST today.


 


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Glad to be of help, my dear. In JJ Abrams' Star trek movie Kirk's shirt is a kind of green and one thing those old Star Trek Gold Key comic book from the sixties got right was the uniform colors, in the early issues, Kirk's shirt is clearly green, it's original color. 


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lonstar70

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Report this Apr. 27 2013, 7:36 am

You know what? I think it has a LOT to do with lighting conditions, and whatnot. At least on TV. I've just begun watching ST:TNG on Netflix, and I have a great 42" flatscreen. Now, I dunno if it was done during the transfer to Netflix, lighting at the time of shooting, or my TV, but Hell, just Picard's red tunic has look green purplr, black, and red all in one scene! Plus they reused the HELL out of some of those uniforms and they simply faded with washings. I like to read the "memoryalpha" or "Star Trek wiki" website before or after every episode viewing. It offers views of the episodes from the production side of things. I LOVE to read about what went on making these shows. And one thing it seems like is that, like TOS", they never had enough money! They'd run out of uniforms, beg, borrow, and steal from wherever they could, and they mention costumes as being a constant problem. In one episode, the Klinhon actors had to use boots from the old 70's "Planet of the Apes" because all the other ones were being used at the time for "Star Trek V!" (I think they should have just let TNG have them, lol).


 


So I can totally relate with how you are approaching the subject of the color of Kirk's tunic. I wouldn't be suprised if it was PINK once!

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Report this Apr. 29 2013, 6:43 pm

In the season one episode " "The Galileo Seven" which I just watched tonight you can clearly see in the scenes that were shot outside on outside sets that Kirks's and the other Command shirts were a light olive green.

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Report this Apr. 30 2013, 10:10 am

I actually think light green for command is a better choice than gold. Far more flattering for various skin tones.


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Report this Apr. 30 2013, 5:16 pm

Quote: Treknoir @ Apr. 30 2013, 10:10 am

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>I actually think light green for command is a better choice than gold. Far more flattering for various skin tones.

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I thought the green wrap around was a nice alternate, but gold is such a solid, imperious color. It's perfect for command. I wish they hadn't changed it in TNG. (but the TNG engineering shirts look more yellow than gold).


 


Green command shirts shouldn't be considered canon, either. What we see on the screen=canon, and since the shirts LOOKED gold, then within the Star Trek universe that's what they are. Not to mention that they were stated as being gold later. So that's why action figurs/costumes should have the command shirts as gold.

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Report this Apr. 30 2013, 8:42 pm

ok green, yellow what ever


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Report this May. 16 2013, 3:42 am

omg you people are really funny cause of what you are discussing about around here

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