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Lang-haoLeeyoh

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 6:31 am

Sorry take so long computer crash; we of same race, both Chinese, if I be racist against you mean I racist against myself to

Lang-haoLeeyoh

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 6:32 am

derfshaya I see human being, and like big sister's white christan anglo american husband to be and live in BF; but every day I walk out on street I reminded by every other White Christian American other than Sister's BF that I Asian; you still live in China? I think living in China like the whites who live in Burbs; very easy to see as one race when U not exposed to 15 dif races a day, who all decide they wish to define themselves as dif from you because they no like your race.

Lang-haoLeeyoh

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 6:32 am

derfshaya I see human being, and like big sister's white christan anglo american husband to be and live in BF; but every day I walk out on street I reminded by every other White Christian American other than Sister's BF that I Asian; you still live in China? I think living in China like the whites who live in Burbs; very easy to see as one race when U not exposed to 15 dif races a day, who all decide they wish to define themselves as dif from you because they no like your race.

Lang-haoLeeyoh

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 6:37 am

Also, I no say people born evil, but that every culture racist, because even wisest of us no can see all of our culture's unquestioned assumptions, and 1 culure not supperior in morality to another, and to suggest that one culture racist and another not ... you know what , never mind; you say you not here to fight, then why as soon as you see I here you start fighting when I wasn't even talking to you.


N' BTW andorian girl and I are getting to be friends on other questions and we fight longer and harder than you and I did, so no excuse for behavior 

Lang-haoLeeyoh

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 6:45 am

derfshaya I mid level black sash in wushu and kung fu, many of my instructors attended demonstrations in China so as to discourage violence from the other side; and many of my family in China had ties to dynasties and opposed Communist Party Government and died in doing so; in fact that one reason parents say I need to leave dream of one day having own place to teach wushu and kung fu and fulfill that dream and need to join sister in America, because beginning to get dangerous to even our branch of family tree, that concentrate on Education, so not so worried about the theft of Family wealth when communists took over country; so try to do well within China continuing with our education.

derfshaya

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 6:48 am

@Lang-haoLeeyoh I understand you're facing real problems and it is kind of bad for you and sometimes even dangerous. It is a problem I unfortunately cannot fully understand as I lack the life experiences. I'll try to offer an outsider's perspective.


Repeating what I have been saying before: racism is natural. You must accept it first, before you can try to fight it.


And also, what kind of result do you want from fighting racism? It may be your wish, but I personally doubt that racism can be entirely eradicated from the face of Earth. You may talk of the effects of racism worsening every second but if you see that racism has been there since a long time ago, you may feel more relaxed about it.


Do you see yourself as an Asian (or Chinese) everyday? Because that will strengthen your perception of racism. You are torturing yourself if you do that. I'm not telling you to ignore racism but you need to make yourself less sensitive to its negative effects before you can gather strength to fight them.


Be part of the people you live with. I'm not talking about America or China. Just the small area you live in... I think it helps.


Sorry if I have been too patronizing again. I just think you deserve a better life than one impacted with racism. The fight against negative racism is every person's personal fight, not something we can work together to remove just in a few months.


I'm glad to see that we are slowly beginning to understand one another.

Lang-haoLeeyoh

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 6:52 am

I was borderline activist in China as stated, but USA company have me as security due to chinese boxing, but when they bring me over to america and imply that I be head of security for company, I now get put on Jackhammer except when too cold and then flag man to direct traffic; which why I want U.S.A. citizenship since sister here and mother now here; but if I quit current job, I loose green Card and have go back to China where only distant relatives and Father dead now, and other sister in Europe

Lang-haoLeeyoh

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 6:54 am

I just wish American Whites in suburbs (which by speech patterns seem to be most people here with some brits) to admit that they rasist, that racism in Americannot restricted to southern farmers.

derfshaya

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 7:00 am

@Lang-haoLeeyoh "racism in America cannot restricted to southern farmers" Point taken. Thank you for this insight.


I live in a culture where we can call ourselves "racists" and have nothing bad happen to us, but I would guess that in America, "racist" is a word with strong negative connotations that people generally do not want to be associated with.


To make them admit or even be conscious of their racism will not be anyone's responsibility: it is simply too difficult and time-consuming. These people will eventually find out themselves. If not, you have the freedom to disregard their comments if you find the comments to be racist.


People already find it hard to say "sorry". Especially people with high-ranking jobs.

Lang-haoLeeyoh

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 7:31 am

Quote: derfshaya @ Apr. 04 2013, 7:00 am

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>@Lang-haoLeeyoh "racism in America cannot restricted to southern farmers" Point taken. Thank you for this insight.

>I live in a culture where we can call ourselves "racists" and have nothing bad happen to us, but I would guess that in America, "racist" is a word with strong negative connotations that people generally do not want to be associated with.

>To make them admit or even be conscious of their racism will not be anyone's responsibility: it is simply too difficult and time-consuming. These people will eventually find out themselves. If not, you have the freedom to disregard their comments if you find the comments to be racist.

>People already find it hard to say "sorry". Especially people with high-ranking jobs.

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CountJohn

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 11:16 am

To me the biggest ommision has always been Russians. Given their enormous impact on space travel, it seems like you'd see a huge amount of Russians in Starfleet, and just as many Russians as Americans, but we've only seen one Russian character. I'm not going to jump in to the derail.......

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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 3:01 pm

Quote: CountJohn @ Apr. 04 2013, 11:16 am

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>To me the biggest ommision has always been Russians. Given their enormous impact on space travel, it seems like you'd see a huge amount of Russians in Starfleet, and just as many Russians as Americans, but we've only seen one Russian character. I'm not going to jump in to the derail.......

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It was partly due to fans pointing this out that they introduced Chekov in the first place.


One thing that was funny about Voyage Home was in 1986, a guy with a strong Russian accent goes around asking where the "nuclear wessels" are, and the lady he talks to just says something like Oh they're just over that way somewhere... lol


ps. I would find it extremely hazardous to assume that you can guess whether someone is white or black from their speech patterns, based as it must be on the implied presupposition of differing levels of eloquence. Dialect differences might indicate a country of origin, and grammatical use might indicate whether a person is speaking their first or second language, but be very careful about distinguishing between two ethnic groups raised in the same country.


I'm not saying that differences do not exist, but that one should not assume that a university professor of one ethnicity, for example, is likely to exhibit a different level of discourse to a university professor of another.


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