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EMH Emitter

leroybrock

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Report this Mar. 17 2013, 8:43 pm

Yoyager made heavy use of the mobile emitter for the Doctor to solve the problems they had created in the character's setup. I have no issues with them solving their problems and making better use of the character but I can't help feeling like it was a problem the characters should have been allowed to solve entirely on their own.


By the time Voyager was thrown out into the Delta quadrant the Federation is obviously very advanced in a wide variety of sciences and technologies. There are a bunch of solutions they could have used before going with the mobile emmiter.


While no one, not even Data, has yet duplicated his positronic brain the Federation's knowledge should include extensive information on the design, construction, maintenance, and repair of all of his bodily components. Belana was able to repair an advanced humanoid machine and construct one by herself with little to no previous experience. Could the problem of the Doctor being unable to leave the Sickbay have been solved by Janeway ordering Belana to design and build a frame to house the Doctor's emitter allowing it to project its "design" over the surface? This would be even better than the mobile emitter as they could integrate tools into the form like a tricorder and phaser.


If the entire body thing is a problem could they not have designed and built a mobile emmiter of their own? Something that while maybe being much larger (up to just smaller than a torso) and not as cute as an arm-badge could have hung suspended inside the boundaries of the Doctor's form? This also allows for the integration of basic tools and gives Voyager's crew the chance to show their skill and creativity.


Thoughts?


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cochrane2063

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Report this Mar. 18 2013, 11:46 pm

Those are some good points. Actually, when one thinks about it, why couldn't they just make more Datas (moral compunctions aside) if they had the physical schematics of him and the computerized brain functions used for the EMH? Obviously, there could be some compatability problems to begin with, but seeing how basically every type of technology in Trek seems to be omnicompatible, it doesn't appear to be too much of a stretch.


In regard to building a larger mobile emitter by themselves, one must remember that the Federation itself hadn't invented it yet, and that the Voyager was by itself in the Delta Quadrant without the resources that the 29th century Starfleet had had to build it. Granted, Tom Paris with his lack of resources was the first human to cross the transwarp threshold, but do we really want to think about Threshold any more than we have to?


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Sophie74656

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Report this Apr. 06 2013, 4:50 am

There are several episodes where they try to come up with ways for the doctor to leave sickbay. They've tried to instal holo emitters in engineering. The problem is that the doctor's program is too large and too complex

leroybrock

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Report this Apr. 06 2013, 3:03 pm

Quote: Sophie74656 @ Apr. 06 2013, 4:50 am

>There are several episodes where they try to come up with ways for the doctor to leave sickbay. They've tried to instal holo emitters in engineering. The problem is that the doctor's program is too large and too complex


I can't buy that explanation. In Living Witness his fully functional emitter was shown to be about the size of a volley ball and in another episode he could comfortably hang out in 7 of 9's implants which I'm sure couldn't have been designed to do that. 


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Sophie74656

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Report this Apr. 16 2013, 5:49 am

Quote: leroybrock @ Apr. 06 2013, 3:03 pm

Quote: Sophie74656 @ Apr. 06 2013, 4:50 am

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>There are several episodes where they try to come up with ways for the doctor to leave sickbay. They've tried to instal holo emitters in engineering. The problem is that the doctor's program is too large and too complex

I can't buy that explanation. In Living Witness his fully functional emitter was shown to be about the size of a volley ball and in another episode he could comfortably hang out in 7 of 9's implants which I'm sure couldn't have been designed to do that. 


That is not correct. In Living Whitness they never showed his emitter to be that large. You may be remembering the episode wrong. The alien recreation of Voyager was incorrect, they had the doctor being an android not a hologram. And then later on one of the scientists finds the doctor's backup data storage, which is also quite small.


Nothing was ever shown to be the size of a volleyball.

KelisThePoet

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Report this Apr. 19 2013, 9:35 pm

And in response to the issue of the Doctor transferring his program into Seven's implants, that's Borg technology, which surpasses many things Starfleet technology can do.


Could Seven have worked with the Starfleet crew to develop a mobile emitter for the Doctor based on Borg technology?  As a continuity question, it's a moot point of course, since the Doctor already had his 29th century mobile emitter by the time Seven came along.  But as a question about creative choices, the writers could have used Seven and Borg tech as an alternate route to developing a solution to the doctor's mobility problem.  Personally, I liked the earlier episodes that suggested partial and partially effective solutions being developed.  I thought this kind of progression was more dramatically interesting than the deus ex machina of giving the Doctor almost complete mobility via tech completely outside the realm of 24th century Starfleet abilities.  But Seven's ability to adapt Borg tech to solve Voyager's problems became a similarly problematic deus ex machina for me, later in the series.


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