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Beware the "Ides of March",and the truth of the "Christos"

2takesfrakes

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Report this Mar. 20 2013, 7:22 pm

Light of the World, shine on me!
Love is the answer ...



If there was actual PROOF of any belief
in Divinity, there would be no such thing
as religion!!!

So, your rantings and multiple links are
for naught!

You're just substituting a set of theories
with one of your own.


fireproof78

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Report this Mar. 20 2013, 7:57 pm

I think the Bible is from God, yes. You will call me a fool-ok, I'm good with that. “The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God” (1 Corinthians 1:18).


But, there is archeological evidence and historians who either reference Jesus or Christians in history. Even scholars such as Bart Ehrman, who is an agnostic by his own admission, does not deny the historical Jesus.



In a 2011 review of the state of modern scholarship, Bart Ehrman (now a secular agnostic who was formerly Evangelical) wrote: "He certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees" B. Ehrman, 2011 Forged : writing in the name of God ookSources/9780062078636">ISBN 978-0-06-207863-6. page 285


Michael Grant (a classicist) states that "In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary." in Jesus: An Historian's Review of the Gospels by Micjhael Grant 2004 ookSources/1898799881">ISBN 1898799881 page 200


Richard A. Burridge states: "There are those who argue that Jesus is a figment of the Church’s imagination, that there never was a Jesus at all. I have to say that I do not know any respectable critical scholar who says that any more." in Jesus Now and Then by Richard A. Burridge and Graham Gould (Apr 1, 2004) ookSources/0802809774">ISBN 0802809774 page 34


Robert E. Van Voorst Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence Eerdmans Publishing, 2000. ookSources/0802843689">ISBN 0-8028-4368-9 page 16 states: "biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of non-existence of Jesus as effectively refuted"


The Gospels and Jesus by Graham Stanton, 1989 ookSources/0192132415">ISBN 0192132415 Oxford University Press, page 145 states : "Today nearly all historians, whether Christians or not, accept that Jesus existed".



Your statements are based upon little evidence other than others who are making connections were there are none, save for correlation. If I don't agree with you, you insult me. I don't see any reason to take you seriously because this is no longer a debate. There is no love in your words and no reason for me to believe you.


As Shepherd Book once said, "You don't fix faith-it fixes you." And you know what? It works for me

davros of skaro

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Report this Mar. 20 2013, 8:10 pm

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Mar. 20 2013, 7:22 pm

>

>Light of the World, shine on me!
Love is the answer ...

>

>If there was actual PROOF of any belief
in Divinity, there would be no such thing
as religion!!!

So, your rantings and multiple links are
for naught!

You're just substituting a set of theories
with one of your own.

>


I know my rantings,and multiple links are naught on you,for you are not my goal.Thank you for your time.


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davros of skaro

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Report this Mar. 20 2013, 8:29 pm

Quote: fireproof78 @ Mar. 20 2013, 7:57 pm

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>I think the Bible is from God, yes. You will call me a fool-ok, I'm good with that. “The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God” (1 Corinthians 1:18).

>But, there is archeological evidence and historians who either reference Jesus or Christians in history. Even scholars such as Bart Ehrman, who is an agnostic by his own admission, does not deny the historical Jesus.

>In a 2011 review of the state of modern scholarship, Bart Ehrman (now a secular agnostic who was formerly Evangelical) wrote: "He certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees" B. Ehrman, 2011 Forged : writing in the name of God ookSources/9780062078636">ISBN 978-0-06-207863-6. page 285

>Michael Grant (a classicist) states that "In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary." in Jesus: An Historian's Review of the Gospels by Micjhael Grant 2004 ookSources/1898799881">ISBN 1898799881 page 200

>Richard A. Burridge states: "There are those who argue that Jesus is a figment of the Church’s imagination, that there never was a Jesus at all. I have to say that I do not know any respectable critical scholar who says that any more." in Jesus Now and Then by Richard A. Burridge and Graham Gould (Apr 1, 2004) ookSources/0802809774">ISBN 0802809774 page 34

>Robert E. Van Voorst Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence Eerdmans Publishing, 2000. ookSources/0802843689">ISBN 0-8028-4368-9 page 16 states: "biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of non-existence of Jesus as effectively refuted"

>The Gospels and Jesus by Graham Stanton, 1989 ookSources/0192132415">ISBN 0192132415 Oxford University Press, page 145 states : "Today nearly all historians, whether Christians or not, accept that Jesus existed".

>Your statements are based upon little evidence other than others who are making connections were there are none, save for correlation. If I don't agree with you, you insult me. I don't see any reason to take you seriously because this is no longer a debate. There is no love in your words and no reason for me to believe you.

>As Shepherd Book once said, "You don't fix faith-it fixes you." And you know what? It works for me

>


Cocka Doodle Doo


Very impressive apologeticly veiled line up you have there.I never expected you too take me seriously.The foot dragger never sees fault inthemselves.


Anyone not under thought limitations,please view my Youtube playlist X&Y Files,and decide for yourself at what I present from other talented people with some under no academic controlled scrutiny.


http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbZH9cedmiWivSWlPDg-zpdgn05Ej90Dc


Thanks for your time,and especially for the Bumps......


 


Intermatrix
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5oahZ_CzM
 
Gobekli Tepe I
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHRVPKKZmA4
 
Gobekli Tepe II
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc5BJGaZvKU
 
Gobekli Tepe III
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ56TbHR4SY
 
Gobekli Tepe IV
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2wxI1nxUv4
 
Gobekli Tepe V
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-v4zG7nkzQ
 
Passion
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyRgfpn60AU
 
Star sight....
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCf83g4NcYs


 


 


 


 


 


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davros of skaro

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Report this Mar. 31 2013, 5:46 pm

Sex,drugs,and God is how the ancient Romans rolled.
 
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7D3CEF9D6BD89A42 
 


davros of skaro

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Report this Apr. 12 2013, 8:58 am

I'm here to say that I can destroy 2 major psychotic world religions with one
historically factual paragraph.



"Crucifixion is a lie.The "tropaion" is a sacred trophy/sun symbol for the
ancient Greeks,and Romans.The tropaion was decorated with armor/weaponry,and was reserved for the spirits of there Gods to enter it.The trophy/victory symbol was displayed after a victorious battle in tribute to there Gods.Prisoners were bound at the base,and never ever placed on it for it is sacred inwich was reserved for divinity only.Julius Caesar held the title of Christos (annointed with oil),and his wax effigy was placed on it during the Ides of March."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropaion (Sacred symbol of victory)


The truth of the matter is history is distorted by the lie of the crucifixion.


Christian Apologetics can only point to just a moldy shin bone with a nail thru it from that era for there physical proof.


I on the other hand can show multitudes of physical proof of the sacred trophy symbol of the Tropaion from the era of the false account of the crucifixion.Just do an image search for "tropaion".


Near me there is a state park (undeveloped) that used to be farmlands going back to the Colonial period.In the 50's when the state purchased the lands they hired workers to buldoze down the now nonexistent structures.The workers moved away a boulder only to find a pair of skeletal hands in rusted out iron shackles.The details behind of what actually happened is lost in time.


Just like the nailed shin bone the shackled hands does not prove a common
practice,and I find bent square nails all the time relic hunting with a metal
detector.The bent nails do not prove colonial crucifixions were common place.


There is no proof at all that crucifixion was a common practice,and only in the minds of those that look to the New Testament,or Koran or to the inaccurate account of the movie "Spartacus" wich is taken as full truth.Wikipedia (wich should be taken as base reference only) even mentions the crucifixion as if a common practice,but it is only a distortion contradicting historical facts.There was more economical means of execution like putting a dismembered head on a pike.The Roman citizens would see a prisoner on a cross as sacrilegious despite what the liars,and the misinformed push.


The historic documentations apologetics point to mention Chrestus,or Christos,and is a title that coincidently Julius Caesar held.The Josephus Flavum is a forgery inserted in,and it is obvious that it does not fit the context,or flow of the writing,or even what the ancient historian would have worded in the first place.


There is plenty of proof that the Tropaion was a common practice,and was a symbol of divinity inwich a prisoner would never ever,I repeat never ever be placed upon it,and only at the base if the celebration warranted it.Keep in mind that the Tropaion was a powerfull political tool for those that funded the war that ended in victory,for victory is it's very symbol.


The crown of thorns symbolises the "Civic crown",and would not be disrespected in that manner.


Crucifixion is a lie.


Jesus is a lie.


We are being lied to by a powerfull organisation of control freaks despite what one choses to believe.


Remember that Christians,and Muslims have to believe Jesus was put on a cross for there religion to work in there delusional minds.


This is absolute irrefutable historical fact about the Tropaion,and it's symbolic use.


The only way to refute this is to believe the Bible,or Koran as the truth wich is psychotic all by itself.


If one is under this delusion then an anology over the existence of Santa is just as valid a point when one throws logic completely out the window inwich religion forces people to do by design.


Actual historical facts backed up by iconography,epigraphy,statues,and coins does not lie,but religion speaks volumes of lies with forked tongues perpetuating it's infallibility (complete joke).


For mankind to move on with it's destiny the religions,and the dogma that inevitably follows it (despite what retards say) should be seen as what it really is.


Religion should be seen in the same context as the gospels of Captain Crunch for "You,and the Captain can make it happen" are just as awe inspiring words to start your day.


True spirituality is not a bunch of rosey passages (that ignores the crappy
ones),crystals,symbols,and other bunk,but our minds,for this is where the true power of positive change resides no matter what one believes about the hereafter.


Religion,and distractive mumbo jumbo is a backslide that holds everyone down,and I mean everyone despite one choses to ignore like a true retard.


Religious people should be looked at for what they actually are,and that is a bunch of babies that refuse to grow up for they fear that lump of coal in there stockings.


Retarded are those that refuse to even look to see the truth,and wrap themselves in lies designed to keep them retarded by control freak others that know the truth.They wrote,and continue to push the lies,that noncritical thinking people eat up,and push it on there defenseless children over,and over again.


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Did you know that the concept of the Holy Trinity was adapted by theologians in the 175-250 c.e. to convert Pagans from the Osiris trinity of ancient Egypt?These Pagans at the time would be familiar with the Egyption mythos,and it had to be used in a new light to convert them.


Father=Osiris


Mother=Isis


Son=Horus


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris_myth (Osiris resurrection mythos)


Osiris Isis Horus Holy Triad (Tools of Trinity Conversion)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH_xD9cMDzA


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Crown of Destiny Caesar's Glory (Thorns of Deception)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_Crown


(The Civic Crown was a chaplet of common oak leaves woven to form a crown. During the Roman Republic and the subsequent Principate, it was regarded as the second highest military decoration to which a citizen could aspire (the Grass Crown being held in higher regard). It was reserved for Roman citizens who saved the lives of fellow citizens by slaying an enemy on a spot not further held by the enemy that same day. The citizen saved must admit it; no one else could be a witness.)


Roman soldiers would not put something that resembled a symbol of honor on a prisoner.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMVAUcFj3Aw


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Caesar's Comet Sidus Iulium (Chrestus Ressurectus)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Caesar (The comet during Caesar's funeral games that ressurected him into a God)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Ro (Emporer Constantine's Christogram modeled after the Julian star aka Caesar's comet)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_hoc_signo_vinces ("in this, win" Emperor Constantine's motto from a supposed vision he had.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzU4bPkWVyY


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Divis Iulius Christos Divine God Julius The Annointed One (Sacred Solar Center)


Julius Caesar was an annointed with oil "Christos" to his celestial mother the Goddess Venus.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ty6-WtH1Q


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What must be done for mankind to move on with our destiny to the stars?


WAKE UP NONRELIGIOUS PEOPLE!!!!!!!


Once you come to realise the distortion of history,other important things must be realised next...........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQzuFrMRA3M


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7OYRknGgEc


http://forum.grasscity.com/pandoras-box/1201905-religion-has-get-f-ck-out-here.html


http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbZH9cedmiWivSWlPDg-zpdgn05Ej90Dc


 


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davros of skaro

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Report this Apr. 15 2013, 5:48 am

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Report this May. 05 2013, 10:48 pm

VALIS was a far better examination of these topics than what you've posted.


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davros of skaro

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Report this May. 06 2013, 11:40 pm


Jesus clearly states that one is exempt from judgment when one believes in him.
When Xtrians say that no scholar refutes the existence of Jesus they are lying.
The Christogram "Chi Ro" is actually the "Julian Star" that Constantine used.
This symbol is actually Caesar's comet.44 B.C.E. comet in the sky during Divus
Iulius Christos's funeral games.Julius Caesar was a Christos to his celestial
mother the Goddess Venus (God of love).Christos is a title (anointed with oil).


The Tropaion is a sacred trophy for victory.The cross like symbol was a stick
or tree with armor/weaponry placed on it mimicking an upright person.This was
reserved for the spirits of there Gods.Prisoners would always be bound at the
base,and would be sacrilegious to put anything not of divinity on it.The Civic
Laurel Crown was a symbol of high honor reserved for honorable,or holy citizens.
Creation,Adam&Eve,the Flood etc are rewrites of Sumerian mythos. wiki/Alulim


Crucify replaced the homophones translation of Latin "cremo" cremate,Greek kremo
"to hang".Caesar was cremated (cremo),and a wax effigy was hanged (kremo) on a Tropaion.Pontifex Maximus aka Augustus Caesar formed the imperial cult of Caesar
which lasted for over 200 years.Augustus was Julius's adopted son Octavian who
was the son of the God Apollo thru a virgin birth by a night visit by a serpent.
Holy Trinity is plagiarism by 175-225 C.E.Theologians of the the Osiris mythos.


The Christian symbols the "crown of thorns",and the "cross" prove historically
that the crucifixion is pure myth.The "Civic Laurel crown",and the "Tropaion",are sacred symbols to the ancient Romans.Any ancient Roman citizen,or soldier using
these symbols,or resemblance of said symbols in the manner described in the
fictional gospels would not happen.This is just like Muslims having a petting zoo filled with pigs.Christian/Muslim delusion is a detriment to the whole planet.


Richard Carrier,David Fitzgerald,Robert M Price,Alvar Ellegard are scholars that
refute existence.Romans made burnt offerings for there Gods took up the smoke.
Image search "tropaion" "caesar's comet" "chi ro" "caesar coin" "divus iulius"
Youtube search "wax imago" "Deception & Lies Built Christianity""skepticon"
"the god that wasn't there" "caesar's comet" "gospel of caesar" "crown of destiny"
The continued belief that Jesus was real by anybody is perpetuation of lies.



 

davros of skaro

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Report this Jun. 19 2013, 7:10 am

Vercingetorix was a thorn in the side of Julius Caesar during the Gallic wars.After 5 years in prison he was paraded in triumph ceremony then strangled as custom.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vercingetorix


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Vj-EgwRJQ

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