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Was Commander Riker really NEEDED ?

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lonstar70

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Report this May. 06 2013, 12:23 pm

WTF is everybody dissing on Riker? He was a great character. I cannot imagine his not being in ST:TNG. Whayare you all pissed about it  20 years afer the fact?

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Report this May. 06 2013, 1:58 pm

I don't think I would love TNG as much as I do without Riker. Not necessarily Riker himself, though he is a strong individual, but the position he filled which allowed a much more realistic insight. Every leader needs a right hand man, in both history and fiction. There needs to be someone close to the captain who can relay the information and duties that the captain himself doesn't have the time to do. Two heads are better than one. There is enough going on during a crisis situation that any single person would need help with. As for skills, Will Riker is a highly regarded tactitian which required him to have much training and dedication. He is able to think quickly in moments in need of immediate action. Picard must focus on diplomacy and the sole mission of the Enterprise (exploration), while Will is there to further ensure stability in emergencies. 


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Report this May. 06 2013, 6:37 pm

Quote: lonstar70 @ May. 06 2013, 12:23 pm

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>WTF is everybody dissing on Riker? He was a great character. I cannot imagine his not being in ST:TNG. Whayare you all pissed about it  20 years afer the fact?

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Agreed. Personally, he's my favorite TNG character after Data and Picard.

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Report this May. 07 2013, 1:06 am

Riker is more dangerous than standing armies.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7FDEvXVBfk

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Report this May. 07 2013, 9:02 am

Certainly Riker was needed. If Picard was disabled or killed, Riker was on point immediately. Beside Riker flowed in the glow of Starfleet's finest `Ship of the line` which is the futuristic "TOP GUN" of the day.


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Report this May. 07 2013, 10:35 am

You didn't know that Riker's main duty was guest and personnel "relations"?



A first officer is necessary to assume command in an emergency and ensure smooth day-to-day operation of the ship.


I didn't personally care for the Riker character but the position was necessary.


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Report this May. 08 2013, 8:42 am

According to the TNG series bible (at least season 1's version), The dynamics of the relationship between Picard & Riker was considered/intended to be treated as a single character: Teacher/student; Father/son; Mentor/Mentee; Diplomat/soldier, etc...


Re-watching the series with that concept in mind, it difinitely puts a different spin on things, and certainly makes Riker much more of a necessary character.


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CountJohn

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Report this May. 08 2013, 10:01 am

Quote: Gawain_VIII @ May. 08 2013, 8:42 am

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>According to the TNG series bible (at least season 1's version), The dynamics of the relationship between Picard & Riker was considered/intended to be treated as a single character: Teacher/student; Father/son; Mentor/Mentee; Diplomat/soldier, etc...

>Re-watching the series with that concept in mind, it difinitely puts a different spin on things, and certainly makes Riker much more of a necessary character.

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Hmm, it seems like they may have transferred aspects of that relationship to Data later on.

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Report this May. 08 2013, 7:38 pm

Best way to describe it Apprentice and Teacher, Learning from Picard is learning from the best Captain in the Fleet.


 


 

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Report this May. 09 2013, 8:25 am

Riker was awesome and needed on the Enterprise all the way! His finest moment was when they did the "Klingon Exchange Student" deal back in S2 and he kicked their commander's ass haha.


Now if you want to talk about useless XO's, The Voyager board's thataway


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Report this May. 12 2013, 9:34 am

My option more differnt TOS and Enterpise and TNG Federation.  In TOS and Enterpise show Captions had lot few rules came to PD or even the how response to possible threats. First officer need all new rules and regulations did existed in TOS both way team misson and on the ship. Many was the first officer job was to able temporal Caption if the Caption kill in action and taking risk away team misson.

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Report this May. 13 2013, 5:49 pm

I put my thoughts in video form.


http://youtu.be/JaRQA-SsUdE

excellentking55

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Report this May. 13 2013, 7:23 pm

Riker being `fit and trim` was already groomed as the most direct experienced First Officer to captain the mighty `Top of the Line` Enterprise 1701  to replace a newly promoted Picard to Admiral. They still suspect the Borg has has influence on Picard anyway and ship him off to some distant station of insignificance.


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Report this May. 15 2013, 8:34 am

He was the best actor on that show and I would have hated TNG without him. He made the show come alive with his humor, his fairness, his intelligence, and many other amazing qualities.

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Report this May. 16 2013, 10:55 am

Riker was a good officer.


He was also the biggest slacker in Starfleet.


Riker also fell way to easy for distractions, like the hologram woman and being one of the first, if not the first to become obsessed with something like the pleasure giving video game, tempted by Q's power.


Worf would have made a good number one, if he didn't make mistakes all the time. In my opinion.


 

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