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Matter leaving the holodeck...

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Report this Mar. 02 2013, 9:17 pm

Has anyone ever noticed how, despite the fact that matter isn't supposed to be able to exist off the holodeck, it does on occasion?

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Report this Mar. 02 2013, 11:23 pm

For instance, in Encounter at Farpoint, Wesley falls in the water inside the holodeck, and then walks out of the holodeck still soaking wet and remarking that maybe he should find something to mop the water up with.

Shouldn't he become dry as soon as he walks through the holodeck door?

Mitchz95

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Report this Mar. 03 2013, 10:04 am

I remember in "The Big Goodbye", it took a minute for the holographic characters to decompile after leaving the holodeck. The water on Wesley and the floor probably did the same.


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Report this Mar. 03 2013, 11:18 am

That explanation could work...

Then there's Elementary, Dear Data when Dr. Moriarty draws a picture of the Enterprise on a piece of paper, which Data and Jordi then take off the holodeck and show to Picard a considerable time later.

TN_TimeLord

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Report this Mar. 03 2013, 5:20 pm

For the water in "Farpoint", I believe that was real water, generated the same as if it came out of the replicator. As for the drawing? One of those things like the doors recognizing when someone makes a dramatic pause before exiting a room.

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Report this Apr. 03 2013, 5:16 pm

When Voyager ended it's series run, Why didn't Starfleet give Holodeck Moriarty a Mobile Emter?


Was Moriarty and his programs destroyed on the Enterprise D?


If not, Picard failed in his promise to help Moriarty when technology advanced.


 


 


 


 

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Report this Apr. 03 2013, 5:40 pm

Quote: Flanaess @ Apr. 03 2013, 5:16 pm

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>When Voyager ended it's series run, Why didn't Starfleet give Holodeck Moriarty a Mobile Emter?

>Was Moriarty and his programs destroyed on the Enterprise D?

>If not, Picard failed in his promise to help Moriarty when technology advanced.

>


By the time the mobile emitter got back to Starfleet, Moriarty had already spent years building a life for himself inside that little cube (which he thought was the real world). Pulling him out of there and forcing him to start from scratch would have been a bit cruel.


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Report this Apr. 03 2013, 7:49 pm

Quote: Mitchz95 @ Apr. 03 2013, 5:40 pm

Quote: Flanaess @ Apr. 03 2013, 5:16 pm

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>When Voyager ended it's series run, Why didn't Starfleet give Holodeck Moriarty a Mobile Emter?

>Was Moriarty and his programs destroyed on the Enterprise D?

>If not, Picard failed in his promise to help Moriarty when technology advanced.

>

By the time the mobile emitter got back to Starfleet, Moriarty had already spent years building a life for himself inside that little cube (which he thought was the real world). Pulling him out of there and forcing him to start from scratch would have been a bit cruel.

Not to mention that it was probably destroyed in the movie "Generations" if it wasn't moved off-ship sometime beforehand.

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Report this Apr. 03 2013, 11:25 pm

Simple matter can leave, such as water on W. Crusher, lipstic on Picard, because as Data say in piolet: "much of it is real" refer to being like transporter, and Riker say "Yes and these trees and rocks have much simpler patters" trouble come in when Holodeck asked to create very complex patterns quickly: like a book would probably be blank untill a person pick up to read, because that much memory is more than it can handle at any one time, and it stated that such things as opening books to read cause holodeck to access the memory of computer to compile that info, if this from blank book to new book would be in transporter flux, instead more detailed changes made to actal pages; or a human pattern, which takes orders from holodeck like a literal modern homogram does today, recreated second by second, both because this require the maximum ability of it, most likely as safty protocal to precent one from ordering a never ending line of soldiers from leaving the holodeck, which could cause any engineer to take over the entiprise.


But most of this is from half remembered passages of books and articals about trek, not quotes from the show, although some are from the show; yet I am reasonble sure this is right; but is see fault please note so can talk about


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Report this Apr. 04 2013, 9:08 am

there used to be a whole youtube video dedicated to holodeck contradictions on youtube. 


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