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A proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Feb. 27 2013, 7:31 pm

Quote: Lone Palm @ Feb. 27 2013, 7:18 pm

>As to Hitler, he was a gambler and that is a significant factor when accounting for his likelihood to use a nuclear weapon.
I was thinking more of "insane," but then again, we all know that.  The problem is that he's not the only insane leader in the world.

T'Paul

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Report this Feb. 28 2013, 7:36 am

Hilarious how when the real motivation was exposed here, the conversation turned from peace to a simple display of zenophobia. 

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Report this Feb. 28 2013, 7:54 am

Quote: T'Paul @ Feb. 28 2013, 7:36 am

>Hilarious how when the real motivation was exposed here, the conversation turned from peace to a simple display of zenophobia. 


Real motivation? Xenophobia?  I think my intention, in the original post, was quite clear.  If it wasn't, I certainly apologize for any confusion.  My "real motivation" was simply to provoke thought and discussion regarding my opinion that the US citizenry should bring about an end to unrestricted governmental interference in foriegn affairs which have no direct relevance to the American populace.


At no point does my "Prime Directive Amendment" restrict free association in any way.  There is no xenophobia, implied or otherwise.  The only expression of xenophobia have been made by detractors who have attempted to misrepresent my stance as a means to argue the oposing viewpoint.  I'm not sure how the disagreements of other posters expose my real motivations at all.


I don't mean to sound unusually agressive or anything, but would you mind explaining/clarifying what you meant by those comments?


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Lone Palm

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Report this Feb. 28 2013, 9:49 pm

With our open border.....


al Qaeda has been using Mexico to enter the USA for quite a while.  And think about the amount of other items (drugs) that is being smuggled.  With technology the way it is, a device the size of a backpack can kill a lot of people.


 


But the flip side to that is that the U.S. Government is encouraging violence within Mexico and especially at the border. To some extent, I believe the Government is complicit so that it can drum up fear from the citizenry for the purpose of usurping power through the democratic process... scare the people so that they're willing to trade liberty for government protection. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S2vb5RcPWY


This is a great video where Ben Swann explains U.S. involvement. The Federal Ban on marijuana gives drug cartels, like those in Mexico, a monopoly by prohibiting competition from the private sector. Without the monopoly, drug cartels would lose their funding and power. 


 


Ultimately, I'm talking about the U.S. being relatively protected in terms of a sustained invasion/war. It would be a tremendous cost for a foreign country to sustain a war in the States. A terrorist attack is different, because of the more individualized nature. 

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Report this Mar. 01 2013, 10:17 am

Quote: Lone Palm @ Feb. 28 2013, 9:49 pm

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>With our open border.....

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style="margin: 0px 0px 3px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; clear: both;">This is a great video where Ben Swann explains U.S. involvement. The Federal Ban on marijuana gives drug cartels, like those in Mexico, a monopoly by prohibiting competition from the private sector. Without the monopoly, drug cartels would lose their funding and power. 

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style="margin: 0px 0px 3px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; clear: both;">Ultimately, I'm talking about the U.S. being relatively protected in terms of a sustained invasion/war. It would be a tremendous cost for a foreign country to sustain a war in the States. A terrorist attack is different, because of the more individualized nature. 

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Yes, I understand.  I'm not talking about the stupid "War on Drugs."  I'm talking about an open border that people have been able to cross for decades.


In today's age, what could be deemed a "terrorist attack" could really be an attack by a sovereign country - especially with the technology we have.  Once Iran has perfected a weapon and shrunk it down to something they can transport, it's relatively simple to bring it through the border and use it.  Now sustaining a war effort across the oceans is much harder, but if they done enough damage via crossing the border, it makes things easier.

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