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darmokattanagra

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Report this Feb. 24 2013, 2:41 pm


 



 



 


Sehlat123

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Report this Feb. 25 2013, 11:16 am

Just can't leave it alone, can you?

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Report this Feb. 25 2013, 12:36 pm

This seems to be trolling to me. You're wasting your time, too. You won't make any progress with the followers of this economic religion.

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Report this Feb. 25 2013, 5:50 pm

A mildly entertaining oversimplification of a political school of thought of which you either (1) know nothing about except what you read about from the pundit-blogs of Ron Paul oponents this past election cycle, or (2) adhere to yourself and recognize the humor in the half-truths, errors, and misconceptions portrayed in the strips.


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Report this Feb. 26 2013, 5:36 am

No different than anything else. The establishment labels what it fears.


Libritarians and the TEA Party are the only entities in America that are concerned and would take appropriate action with fiscal responsibility and the Constitution.


So both parties discredit them to save their sorry asses.


Ron Paul (and his son) are great Americans. Better than anyone else currently serving in Congress or the White House.


Ask yourself this. Why are these "cuts" in sequestration purposefully constructed to affect as many people as possible? Could it be that the establishment doesn't ever want to cut anything?


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leroybrock

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Report this Feb. 26 2013, 6:14 am

" Libritarians and the TEA Party are the only entities in America that are concerned and would take appropriate action with fiscal responsibility and the Constitution."

Sure. Whatever you say.

"Ron Paul (and his son) are great Americans. Better than anyone else currently serving in Congress or the White House."

You've given me my first laugh of the day. Thanks good sir.

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darmokattanagra

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Report this Feb. 26 2013, 8:18 pm

Quote: leroybrock @ Feb. 25 2013, 12:36 pm

>This seems to be trolling to me. You're wasting your time, too. You won't make any progress with the followers of this economic religion.


Is there anyone here you don't consider a troll? I mean, besides real trolls like you and SpamSpam?

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Report this Feb. 26 2013, 8:20 pm

Quote: Sehlat123 @ Feb. 25 2013, 11:16 am

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>Just can't leave it alone, can you?

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Just trying to make things fair. I'm a socialist, remember?


darmokattanagra

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Report this Feb. 26 2013, 8:36 pm

Quote: Gawain_VIII @ Feb. 25 2013, 5:50 pm

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>A mildly entertaining oversimplification of a political school of thought of which you either (1) know nothing about except what you read about from the pundit-blogs of Ron Paul oponents this past election cycle, or (2) adhere to yourself and recognize the humor in the half-truths, errors, and misconceptions portrayed in the strips.

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Well, technically I'm a left-wing libertarian but if I had to pick a label I guess I'd prefer "socialist anarchist."


I oppose government and corporations. I oppose oligarchy and capitalism. I don't doublethink myself into believing we can have one without the other.

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Report this Feb. 26 2013, 9:01 pm

I will take Ron Paul over Obama any day.I disagree with him on some points, and agree with others, while with Obama I have yet to find real common ground beyond political speak.


I get why people oppose governments and coporations, but just do not agree with them. I'll give socialists a fair listen but I find it hard to agree on some points.


 


Thanks for sharing the comics though


 Always good fun

Gawain_VIII

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Report this Feb. 27 2013, 1:16 pm

I say this as a card-carrying member of the LP and a former GOPer...


I voted for Dr. Paul in the primaries and Gov. Johnson in the General, but if I were forced to choose "the lesser of two evils" I would have picked Obama because the economic damage his policies have the potential to cause are more easily recovered from than the long-term damage to society that was certain to be caused by the social policies Romney perpetuated.  In short: Obama scares me less than Romney.


Luckily for me, I do have the freedom to choose... and I chose Gov. Johnson.


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Report this Feb. 27 2013, 1:53 pm

Quote: Gawain_VIII @ Feb. 27 2013, 1:16 pm

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>I say this as a card-carrying member of the LP and a former GOPer...

>I voted for Dr. Paul in the primaries and Gov. Johnson in the General, but if I were forced to choose "the lesser of two evils" I would have picked Obama because the economic damage his policies have the potential to cause are more easily recovered from than the long-term damage to society that was certain to be caused by the social policies Romney perpetuated.  In short: Obama scares me less than Romney.

>Luckily for me, I do have the freedom to choose... and I chose Gov. Johnson.

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I find that amazing. Besides my dissagreements with Johnson, I can't believe you would think you can recover easily from Obama. Obamacare alone will wipe out the whole health care system. Now for those who love it, you don't know the details. It may sound fine to you, but if you look at all the regulations for doctors, it is not. So see you on the waiting list!


Then we come to his spending. Now this is not him alone, it is most of congress too. But he has pushed for things more crazy. (remember the jobs bill even Harry Reid was not willing to put out?) First of all, it gets us into debt. Their solution? Print money! But wait, that doesn't fix it, because you are devaluing the dollar, which causes inflation. So if this continues, we could turn into the weimar republic. I know you won't accept that, but just keep it in mind.


Then we come to his dissagreements with the constitution. He has said that he doesn't like it many times, though the media won't report it. He says "it's a charter of negative liberties," and pushes for things that are against it.


Romney's policies weren't really that bad. Well actually, he didn't have many other than tax rates. He believes (I think, though he changes all the time) that we should have lower taxes on everybody, therefore letting the system work itself out, as  has been successfully done by Reagan, Kennedy, and Coolige.


Over all, I really don't know what Romney would have done, but he is a buisnessman. The government is a buisness-- it takes in money (taxes), and puts out services (Military, social services, etc.). If you ran it like a buisness, balancing the budget, and doing it's job, it would not be bad. But look at it now, run by a bunch of lawyers. They spend everything they don't have, in the last 4 years, we have gooten 7 trillion dollars deeper into debt. You think all this is easily reversible?


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Report this Feb. 27 2013, 3:06 pm

Quote: Sehlat123 @ Feb. 27 2013, 1:53 pm

>[quoteThe government is a buisness-- it takes in money (taxes), and puts out services (Military, social services, etc.). If you ran it like a buisness, balancing the budget, and doing it's job, it would not be bad. But look at it now, run by a bunch of lawyers. They spend everything they don't have, in the last 4 years, we have gooten 7 trillion dollars deeper into debt. You think all this is easily reversible?
While the government isn't really a business, it could definitely apply business principles.  And for our "budget".... why doesn't the government use GAAP?!?!?  Because they're hiding stuff, that's why.

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Report this Feb. 27 2013, 3:27 pm

I voted for Dr. Paul in the primaries and Gov. Johnson in the General, but if I were forced to choose "the lesser of two evils" I would have picked Obama... Luckily for me, I do have the freedom to choose... and I chose Gov. Johnson.


Same here. Although, I disagree on why I would prefer (but never vote) for Obama over Romney. First, I'd choose Obama out of condemnation for the GOP for having railroaded Romney's nomination and committing voter/delegate fraud in the process. A vote for Romeny would be condoning that process. Secondly, better off with the devil you know, than the devil you don't. Presidentially speaking, each successor seems to get worse. Thirdly, and most importantly, the economy is going to fail soon and I would rather have a Democrat in Office than a Republican, because the Party (and the economic policies they espouse) holding Office will get the blame. Even though the Republican Party espouses capitalism while practicing Keynesianism. the public would be more likely to reject Keynesianism and demand Capitalism during a time of upheavel overseen by a Democrat than if the upheavel happended during a Republican's watch. 

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Report this Feb. 27 2013, 3:36 pm

He believes (I think, though he changes all the time) that we should have lower taxes on everybody, therefore letting the system work itself out, as  has been successfully done by Reagan, Kennedy, and Coolige.


That's not quite true. Romney claims to be for low taxes, but in the debates he side stepped the issue of the Federal Reserve and would likely do nothing to audit or end the FED. Like Reagan, Kennedy, and Coolidge, Romney would offer the facade of tax cuts while using the Federal Reserve to inflate the monetary supply. Romney would just pass the taxes on to a later generation by the hidden tax of inflation. That's assuming the system wouldn't go bust on his watch. 

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