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Rick Berman Appreciation thread

chator56

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Report this Jun. 25 2013, 5:16 pm

Berman made alot of critical decisions like casting Stewart for Picard and Mulgrew for Janeway, that is, after Bujold didn't work out. He had a great instinct for casting. Some of his stories were not that great, like the TNG episode w/Max Headroom, but he definately deserves credit for trying to preserve Roddenberry's vision, and trying to maintain uniformity through the various tv series, and adherence to canon.

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Report this Jun. 26 2013, 9:07 am

Quote: chator56 @ Jun. 25 2013, 5:16 pm

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>Berman made alot of critical decisions like casting Stewart for Picard and Mulgrew for Janeway, that is, after Bujold didn't work out. He had a great instinct for casting. Some of his stories were not that great, like the TNG episode w/Max Headroom, but he definately deserves credit for trying to preserve Roddenberry's vision, and trying to maintain uniformity through the various tv series, and adherence to canon.

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Rick Berman had nothing to do with casting Patrick Stewart as Picard.  Robert Justman was the man who brought Stewart to GR's attention.  GR ultimately made the decision to cast Stewart.


 


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Report this Jun. 26 2013, 9:09 am

Quote: Hegemony.Cricket @ Feb. 25 2013, 3:17 am

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>Sora raises a good point about Berman's run on TNG. Basically, the moment Berman took control of the series was the moment TNG became a watchable show.

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I think the improvement of TNG with season 3 was more about Michael Pillar coming on board as a producer and the head of the writers than Berman.  Of course, Berman hired Pillar, so I guess you have to give him some credit there.


 


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Report this Jun. 26 2013, 9:27 am

Quote: heronymous @ Jun. 25 2013, 4:29 pm

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>Actually , Rick Berman was Gene's handpicked Successor ( along with his Wife).. those discussions are on record !  

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From an interview with TOS and TNG's DC Fontana, who worked with GR on TNG season 1.


TB : Many fans today criticize Rick Berman's reign over STAR TREK. Was he really chosen by Roddenberry to steer the franchise after him, or was him a studio choice imposed on Gene by Paramount?


Fontana : To the best of my knowledge, Rick Berman's assignment to THE NEXT GENERATION was a studio assignment. He had been a studio executive, not a production man. Gene Roddenberry did not choose Mr. Berman to succeed him in any way, shape or form - again to the best of my knowledge.


And from a interview with David Gerrold, who helped create TNG:


So, after Gene passed away, the control of the show ended up mainly with Rick Berman.


Yeah, now Rick Berman was not...Gene didn't like Rick, at all. But Rick was installed on the show by the studio as a way to keep a control on the show. To keep it from getting out of hand. To keep the budgets in line, make sure that the scripts were done. Rick was there to manage the details. To make sure that the scripts got done on time, and that production moved along. Because the studio was a little bit afraid of another debacle like STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE, which had gone way over-budget, way out-of-control, and was a big fat turkey. And the studio knew their problem then had been Gene. And so they put Rick in place to try and make things work. To work around Gene, to make it work. Well, Rick was busy playing studio politics, and he and the lawyer would work together to get rid of everybody who was a threat to their power. And nobody knew from one day to the next who Gene was friends with, because Gene didn't even remember who he was friends with from one day to the next. My attitude was, "I want to do Star Trek; I don't want to get involved in office politics." Because I don't have the strength for office politics; I don't have the temperament for it. I know it's possible to produce television that's not only fun to watch, but fun to produce, because I've been there. Land of the Lost was that kind of a show. Where we had a lot of fun together.


 


 


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Report this Jun. 26 2013, 11:11 am

I have no issue with Berman. I think he did a good job with TNG and DS9.  I wasn't crazy about VOY but it was more because I wasn't fond of Janeway. ENT could have been much better though.

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Report this Jun. 26 2013, 1:41 pm

Actually heronymous, you are incorrect.  Please do not post inaccurate information.  If you can not cite specifics as to the "discussions on record" you refer to, then you should not post untruths.  And since what you wrote is not true, you therefore will not be able to cite specifics.   And to write "along with his wife" is ridiculous.  You think that Paramount consulted Mrs. Roddenberry as to the assignment of one of their Production Executives?!  C'mon.

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Report this Jun. 26 2013, 3:39 pm

I celebrate Rick Berman's contributions to THE NEXT GENERATION,
particularly on television. Thank you for 7 seasons of the best
show in the STAR TREK franchise, Mr. Berman! I salute you, sir!


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Report this Jun. 26 2013, 4:20 pm

Great Photo , 2TFrakes ! L-R Patrick Stewart , Majel Roddenberry , Rick Berman , Jonathan Frakes , Big Bird and Bob Justman . Contrary to comments on this topic , Gene and Rick got on very well ! And Majel was always his personal second-in-command . Of course , they all didn't always agree on everything .


This has all been written down , virtually in a daily log format , and I have these books in my collection . It would take awhile to access that information for confirmation here , and really I'm too busy . I am just making an occasional comment !

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Report this Jun. 26 2013, 7:35 pm

Quote: heronymous @ Jun. 25 2013, 4:29 pm

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>Actually , Rick Berman was Gene's handpicked Successor ( along with his Wife).. those discussions are on record !  

>I would like to know the reasons why Leroy Brock and Keldor despise Rick Berman and Braga's work ? What is the criteria ? Are they filmmakers themselves ? I certainly know they're critics ? But I also know what Hollywood's and Paramounts criteria are - there's a bad guy (Kang , Khan , Soren , Shinzon , Nero , Harrison) and the good guy (Kirk , Picard) has to stop them ! Oh , and there is lots of fighting and action !

>I like all the Series and thought Nemesis was quite good ! I think Berman and Braga did a good job of fleshing out Star Trek ! But I would like to know what opposing fans think is missing ?!

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Well I think it's just some people like Trek and some don't. And also some people got tired of multiple series. Some people want just a single series. And I think at the time that TNG was made, I think it was conisdered just a "New Star Trek" just as much as it was a sequel. Kinda like how Star Trek 2009 and Into Darkness are reboots/remakes. I think TNG was somewhat looked at in the same light. There were some people who were TOS fans who wouldn't watch TNG, and then some people moved onto DS9 and then even fewer to Voyager and even fewer to Enterprise. It isn't so much a quality issue as it is, unless you have the super hardcore obsessive fans like me, the more you make the fewer people are going to keep following. The average fans got bored and got overwhelmed and thought they were just milking Star Trek. But I don't see it as milking as I really loved each and every series. They were all quite special to me, and all added to Star Trek as a whole.


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