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UninvitedGuest

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Report this Feb. 11 2013, 11:04 pm

Quote: Sehlat123 @ Feb. 10 2013, 5:16 pm

Quote: UninvitedGuest @ Feb. 09 2013, 5:50 pm

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>The 1960's look of everything just makes me not like it as much as the other Star Trek shows, but at least the special-effects were redone with CGI not too long ago.

>The earlier TNG episodes look very modern in comparison even though it's 25 years old.

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I agree with that. TOS was kind of ridiculous sometimes, also. Some episodes were really good, but others were just goofy. Take Arena, for example, or that one with Apollo. All those episodes are kind of weird.

Anyway, its REALLY hard to rank the series's. Basically my favorite is the one I'm watching.

 


lol, TOS looks like it takes place in the 1960s even though it's supposed to be in the 23rd century. Still a good series though especially since the other Star Trek shows would never have existed without it.


 

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Report this Feb. 12 2013, 8:17 am

Quote: UninvitedGuest @ Feb. 11 2013, 11:04 pm

Quote: Sehlat123 @ Feb. 10 2013, 5:16 pm

Quote: UninvitedGuest @ Feb. 09 2013, 5:50 pm

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>The 1960's look of everything just makes me not like it as much as the other Star Trek shows, but at least the special-effects were redone with CGI not too long ago.

>The earlier TNG episodes look very modern in comparison even though it's 25 years old.

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I agree with that. TOS was kind of ridiculous sometimes, also. Some episodes were really good, but others were just goofy. Take Arena, for example, or that one with Apollo. All those episodes are kind of weird.

Anyway, its REALLY hard to rank the series's. Basically my favorite is the one I'm watching.

 

lol, TOS looks like it takes place in the 1960s even though it's supposed to be in the 23rd century. Still a good series though especially since the other Star Trek shows would never have existed without it.

 


How does it look like it takes place in the 1960's?lol


I was born in 1989, so I obviously know very little about the 1960's and obviously no nothing about what it was like to live in the 60's. Can you elaborate?


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UninvitedGuest

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Report this Feb. 12 2013, 1:16 pm

I wasn't around in the 60s either, but just compare TOS to the look of the first six Star Trek movies which are also supposed to be in the distant future of the 23rd century.

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Report this Feb. 12 2013, 11:09 pm

I tend to appreciate all the Treks for their individual strengths and set of characters. Depending on my mood I can watch any Star Trek episode at anytime; that's the beauty of having an archive of stories and character/moral dramas stretching 28 seasons of Television. *I own the entire library on DVD and have begun my Blu-ray collection. I'm a diehard Trekker so ranking the series is difficult for me.


1. TNG - I was born into this series, my Father and eldest brother were avid fans never missing an episode, so naturally I gained an interest and remember crying at the end of the finale. I begged my parent's for the toys and coloring books LOL!


2. DS9 - The first series I remember watching from the Pilot in 1993 to the finale in 1999.  Loved the continuity of the stories and enjoyed the character development, in retrospect I consider DS9 the precursor for series like LOST, which featured sweeping character/plot arcs throughout the series.


3. VOY - This was a lighter series dramatically, but a fun adventure. I couldn't pass up the opportunity of watching 2 episodes of Star Trek a week; I mean looking back now, its hard to believe 2 separate television productions of a science fiction franchise were churning out 2 episodes every week for 5 years.   


4. TOS - I didn't watch the series entirely until last year  I am shamed to admit, but I fell in love with the characters. Having read countless articles and watched many documentaries over the years on that time in history, Star Trek was a trailblazer when it came to confronting sensitive issues on National television; racism, sex, drugs, violence, etc.  Revolutionary Television!


5. ENT - This is the attempt on the part of the 90's Star Trek producer's to revitalize the Star Trek mythology for the new millennium, by giving us a little history lesson on our beloved fictional universe; no Federation of Planets or Neutral Zone, and the transporter is a new technology. This was the series that started with all the right intentions, but unfortunatly plagued by a "creative block" so to speak, often regurgitating past stories in the franchise with the new characters and settings.  I thought it had enough to redeem itself by the end of season 3, unfortunately too many fans lost interest early on. Anyways Enterprise produced many excellent episodes for me to enjoy to years for come.


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Report this Feb. 13 2013, 10:06 am

1. The Next Generation


2. TNG Movies


3. TOS Movies


4. Deep Space Nine


5. New Voyages/Phase II (fan production)


6. Voyager


7. Enterprise


8. TOS Remastered


9. Hidden Frontier (fan production)


10. The Original Series


11. JJ-Trek


12. The Animated Series


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Report this Feb. 14 2013, 4:51 pm

1. DS9 -  This show just had the best storyline. To really enjoy this show you would have to watch the whole series through. This is probably why a lot of people have a hard time getting into it.


2. TNG - Grew up on this show. This show had some duds in terms of episodes throughout the first two seasons and occasional ones in the later seasons, but for the most part the shows were well written.


3. Voyager - This show had the misfortune of being written at the same time as DS9 and after TNG/TOS so a lot of the stories come across as rehashes that take a slight step back. Though this show did have some great episodes. I am glad this show was around or else some of the producers of this show would have tried to change DS9's premise a bit.


4. TOS - I never could get into this show due to the cheesiness. This show would have been so much better had they put a larger effort in having a more serious tone. A lot of the episodes come across as silly even though they are trying to make a point. Had they produced more episodes like Balance of Terror and City On The Edge of Forever, this show would be amazing. I give it props for basically being the base upon which the movies and TNG improved upon.


I have yet to watch Enterprise other than seeing half of one episode.


If I were to rank the movies as another person did, I'd place TOS Movies (minus The Motion Picture) after TNG, followed by TNG movies. The Motion Picture would be dead last.

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Report this Feb. 14 2013, 9:04 pm

1. VOY (Closest thing to recapturing the essence of TOS. Very fun characters, great special effects. Has it's clunkers but when it's at it's best, seriously, it's beyond compare. Timeless, Scorpion etc.)


2. TOS Remastered (It has more than it's share of trying episodes but it has a certain charm to it that's unique. Also, like VOY, when it's good, it GOOD)


3. DS9 (Great character development. Great story arcs. Sisko is too cardboard though, and the story tends to drag. Serialization is nice, but I prefer little running arcs like in VOY because although something is happening throughout, you still get a feel that every episode has it's own unique thing to it. In contrast, I'm not always interested in the Dominion War)


4. TNG (I grew up with TNG. To watch it now, ater watching VOY and DS9, the character gelling just ain't there. The relationships between characters just feel more natural and enjoyable to watch in DS9 and VOY. Even TOS has that Kirk/Spock/Bones thing going on. And secondly, Picard seems like a whimp after watching Janeway "punch her way through" the Delta Quadrant. I honestly believe that if Picard were the one stranded in the Delta Quadrant he and his crew would be destroyed by the first season. If they survived they certainly wouldn't have mae it pass Borg Space. 


5. ENT (Well......I liked the theme song and the opening. I like the premise of trying to recapture the wonder of exploration from TOS, but it didn't live up to it. Maybe it was the bland characters. Maybe it was the fact that it didn't feel like Star Trek and they compounded it by taking the name Star Trek out of the title. Maybe it was the fact that the finale was framed as a TNG episode. Say what you want about Endgame, at least it was about Janeway and her nemesis. These Are The Voyages was about Riker and Troi. OK, let's put it down to a combination of all those things. That's the least favourite. 

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Report this Feb. 15 2013, 8:28 pm

Quote: Meok @ Feb. 14 2013, 9:04 pm

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>1. VOY (Closest thing to recapturing the essence of TOS. Very fun characters, great special effects. Has it's clunkers but when it's at it's best, seriously, it's beyond compare. Timeless, Scorpion etc.)

>2. TOS Remastered (It has more than it's share of trying episodes but it has a certain charm to it that's unique. Also, like VOY, when it's good, it GOOD)

>3. DS9 (Great character development. Great story arcs. Sisko is too cardboard though, and the story tends to drag. Serialization is nice, but I prefer little running arcs like in VOY because although something is happening throughout, you still get a feel that every episode has it's own unique thing to it. In contrast, I'm not always interested in the Dominion War)

>4. TNG (I grew up with TNG. To watch it now, ater watching VOY and DS9, the character gelling just ain't there. The relationships between characters just feel more natural and enjoyable to watch in DS9 and VOY. Even TOS has that Kirk/Spock/Bones thing going on. And secondly, Picard seems like a whimp after watching Janeway "punch her way through" the Delta Quadrant. I honestly believe that if Picard were the one stranded in the Delta Quadrant he and his crew would be destroyed by the first season. If they survived they certainly wouldn't have mae it pass Borg Space. 

>5. ENT (Well......I liked the theme song and the opening. I like the premise of trying to recapture the wonder of exploration from TOS, but it didn't live up to it. Maybe it was the bland characters. Maybe it was the fact that it didn't feel like Star Trek and they compounded it by taking the name Star Trek out of the title. Maybe it was the fact that the finale was framed as a TNG episode. Say what you want about Endgame, at least it was about Janeway and her nemesis. These Are The Voyages was about Riker and Troi. OK, let's put it down to a combination of all those things. That's the least favourite. 

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With the exception of your description of Enterprise, AMEN!!!!


 


Voyager is my 2nd favorite series, but is right on the heels of DS9, and I hate that Voyager is often everybody's favorite series to crap on...I agree with your take on TNG as well. The same thing happened to me. I started with TNG and thought it was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen, and then after seeing DS9 and Voyager, I was like dang! These 2 series blow TNG out of the water! I love every series though, and I will never understand with most fans why one series has to be golden and another a smoking pile of crap....they are all golden in their own way.


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Report this Feb. 16 2013, 1:10 pm

1. TNG


2. TOS


3. ENT


4. VOYAGER


5. DS9


 

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Report this Feb. 16 2013, 3:33 pm

1. Star Trek: The Next Generation -- My favorite seasons are 3 and 4. This is true Star Trek at its best. It was creative, intelligent, and thought-provoking. This is what Star Trek can be. It's not about blowing up ships and madmen trying to spoil the Enterprise's day. This is about taking the social problems of history, dressing them up in unique and well-defined races, and feeling the tension in the conflict it creates. The 2nd season and 5th are not as good, but they are up there; some of the best of Star Trek. The 1st, 6th, and 7th you can keep. 


2. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine -- This is the series unlike any other. It has rich themes and tests the universe established in the first two series. Would we keep our morals and values if we faced an existential threat? The Dominion fits into this as the perfect villian. I enjoyed the Bajorans, Cardassians, and Klingons in the show. It was at its height in seasons 2, 4, and 6. Season 1 has some good episodes, but on-the-whole isn't really doing anything interesting. Exceptions include Emissary, Captive Pursuit, and In the Hands of the Prophets. Seasons 3 and 5 are blunt in their storytelling. Season 7 seems to be the worst version of this series--more character development, but nothing that fits into the framework of the show. 


3. Star Trek: The Original Series -- To be honest, it is dated. It's dated in how it treats women. It's dated in the stories that it tells. It even uses the wrong weights and measurements. Spock isn't fully formed yet and the show really pales in comparison. I love the 1st and 2nd seasons. The 3rd is horrible. I understand its ahead of its time, but I much enjoyed the spin-offs more than the original. I still like the show, but it's got a lot of flaws.


4. Star Trek: Enterprise -- It, at least, attempts to do some exploring. I think the series didn't have as strong of a cast as the first 3 shows. I think the series too often makes fun of Trek instead of showing earnest and intelligent people what it's like in space. There is a noticable seperation between series 3 and series 4 on my list. 


5. Star Trek: Voyager -- I tried. I really tried to understand what they were doing, but the concept was too dull and blunt for my taste and they are the ones that spoiled me in the first 3 series. I understand where there is supposed to be tension. The Maquis are never fully fleshed out in the series and that is where they had a chance to make this interesting. These characters get to know one-another, share each other's past experiences with the Federation, show a dark side of paradise. Challenge the status-quo of the assumed traits of Starfleet. Instead, we have a very simple premise


Maquis Character: "We don't like you!" 


Starfleet Character: "Well, we don't like you, either."


Janeway: "Our crews have to learn to work together. I wish they would learn."


A few episodes later, they share some similar experiences in engineering or on the bridge, and suddenly they are laughing and having a good time. End of show. It's got a lot of promise, but we never learn who the Maquis are. Then, they introduce the Borg and say the same things said in Next Generation. Except for the Borg queen, who steps on her own lines in First Contact, there is no difference between the Borg and any other race we meet. They just have more advanced weapons.


The Viidians were interesting. The Kazon were not. Kes and the Doctor were interesting, and as much as I know it will get me killed for saying it, Seven of Nine was not an interesting character. Janeway was not my favorite Captain, and I am tired of being told that I don't get it because I'm a man. It's not enough to simply be a woman. She was stronger in comparison to, say, a love interest for Kirk or Riker. But she was a wooden, ill-defined character played by an actress with a grating voice and 3 facial expressions (Happy, Concerned, and Determined). That's it. She is not strong enough for this character and the writers didn't do her any favors. She makes the decisions. A Captain in very important in these series. They are the ones that feel the tension before a decision is made. 


As you can see, it is far-and-away least favorite series. I know others like it, I don't. 


 


That said, I would love to see a new show for the 21st century. It would be great to see them try once again. 


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Report this Feb. 16 2013, 3:42 pm

Mulgrew and Picardo were the bright spots in Voyager. Jeri Ryan could have been as well (her impression of the Doctor during an episode when his program was stored in her was great) but she had very few moments in which to shine like Picardo and Mulgrew did.

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Report this Feb. 17 2013, 4:24 am

Quote: jeanluckirk737 @ Feb. 09 2013, 3:59 am

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>1.)TNG

>1 AND 2 DEPEND IN WHAT MOOD I'M IN

>2.) TOS

>3.) DS9

>4.) VOY

>5.) ENT

>In truth I like TOS, TNG and DS9 all the same. I like VOY and ENT much less than those three series, but I definitely like VOY more than ENT

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After watching DS9 again, it is now my favourite


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Report this Feb. 17 2013, 4:16 pm

Quote: jeanluckirk737 @ Feb. 17 2013, 4:24 am

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>After watching DS9 again, it is now my favourite

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@ jeanluckirk737: It's nice to hear that fans are revisiting DS9 and discovering its greatness again. What made you reassess your ranking of the series? What do you thing Deep Space Nine did differently or better to earn your favor?

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Report this Feb. 19 2013, 10:36 am

1. DS9


2. TOS (if this was a favorite to least favorite list, this would be #1)


3. TNG


4. ENT


5. VOY

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Report this Feb. 19 2013, 2:59 pm

1.TOS because without it no others would have existed in this timeline.


2.VOY the only spinoff I could wrap my head around.


3.all the rest excluding ENT which I don't feel belongs in the lineup at all

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