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TAS Continuity Errors

Gawain_VIII

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Report this Jan. 29 2013, 2:12 pm

While having a discussion concerning Trek canon, the history of TAS's canonicity was brought up.  At various times in the franchise's past, TAS was considered canon, then it wasn't, then it was again, and now only parts of it are...


In my opinion, it should be considered canon up to the point of contradiction.  So, in that vein... Let's scour through the cartoons and find all the errors and contradictions.  If we can come up with some explanation that makes sense, so much the better.  Of course, not everything will be reasonably explainable.  If it's a straight-up error, then it is what it is.


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Report this Jan. 29 2013, 2:34 pm


Beyondthe Farthest Star


Kyle's Mustache: Not really a continuity error, but it's a significant change from TOS.  Easily explained as foreshadowing Kyle's full-goatee in TWOK.


Automatic Bridge Defense System: Security device similar to the counter-insurgency program on Terok Nor/DS9.  Not an error, but never seen again.


Yesteryear


No errors noted.


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Bob Wesley's Tunic: Commodore Wesley wore gold in "The Ultimate Computer" but wears blue here.  As Governor of Mantilles, it's likely that he's retired from Starfleet and is wearing civillian clothes--pure coincidence that his shirt is similar in color/style to a science uniform.


... to be continued...


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Mitchz95

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Report this Jan. 29 2013, 6:09 pm

"The Slaver Weapon" established the Earth/Kzinti wars as happening in the late 21st century, which doesn't really fit with what was depicted in Enterprise and First Contact.


According to "The Time Trap", the first Earth ship to use warp drive was a Constitution-esque ship called the "Bonaventure", which was lost on her third mission "decades ago" as of the 2260s. That does not fit with Enterprise, and doesn't make much sense in itself.


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Report this Jan. 30 2013, 7:23 am

Not really an error in continuity but "Beyond..." also introduces the [i]life support belts[/i] which were never used in any other form of canon Trek.


The name of the episode escapes me, but the one with Robert April states: (1) A mandatory retirement age of 75, when modern medicine allows for humans to live at least to a 100; (2) Sarah April states she was the first Chief Medical Officer onboard a starship, which seems to contradict that such a role existed since the days of Phlox serving as Archer's CMO; (3) Finally, that very same episode has Warp Speeds of over Factor 40...since the TOS scale of Warp Speed is different from TNG's (which can only go up to 10) it may not be a contradiction....unless I do the conversion and the TNG equivalent is 10+ meaning it would be beyond infinate speed.

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Report this Jan. 30 2013, 11:05 am

There's that TAS episode that shows a holodeck on the Enterprise. When TNG starts it's implied that holdecks are relatively new, and on a Voyager episode(Flashback) Ensign Kim directly states that there were no holdecks on Starfleet ships in the 23rd century.

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Report this Jan. 30 2013, 11:40 am

Well that wasn't a holodeck per say. It was called the Rec Room and it was very simplsitic compared to TNG's Holodecks. It looked like it was limited to mimicking environments and nothing more.

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Report this Feb. 06 2013, 8:33 pm

Quote: Mitchz95 @ Jan. 29 2013, 6:09 pm

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>"The Slaver Weapon" established the Earth/Kzinti wars as happening in the late 21st century, which doesn't really fit with what was depicted in Enterprise and First Contact.

>According to "The Time Trap", the first Earth ship to use warp drive was a Constitution-esque ship called the "Bonaventure", which was lost on her third mission "decades ago" as of the 2260s. That does not fit with Enterprise, and doesn't make much sense in itself.

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These then would be errors in Enterprise and First Contact NOT in TAS. TAS was produced years before either. In fact such continuity errors are what detracts fro Enterprise and, to a lesser extent, First Contact.


Any continuity proplems in TAS can only be where it contradicts TOS. There were no other series or any movies at that time.


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Mitchz95

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Report this Feb. 06 2013, 8:51 pm

Quote: Beershark @ Feb. 06 2013, 8:33 pm

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>These then would be errors in Enterprise and First Contact NOT in TAS. TAS was produced years before either. In fact such continuity errors are what detracts fro Enterprise and, to a lesser extent, First Contact.

>Any continuity proplems in TAS can only be where it contradicts TOS. There were no other series or any movies at that time.

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TAS wasn't really considered canon at the time. So while you're right that it was First Contact and Enterprise which caused the contradictions, they can't really be blames for it.


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Report this Feb. 07 2013, 7:02 pm

Yes they can.....and I just did.


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Report this Feb. 07 2013, 7:33 pm

Quote: Beershark @ Feb. 07 2013, 7:02 pm

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>Yes they can.....and I just did.

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DS9's "Crossover" completely contradicted the "Dark Mirror" novel. But since the novels are non-canon, there's no problem.


Why is the situation with TAS any different?


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Report this Feb. 08 2013, 6:09 pm

Because TAS was shown on national television with the real voices of most of the actors like shatner, nimoy, etc. It was also created by Gene Roddenberry and distributed by Paramount.


It seems to complete the 5 year mission basically since TOS has 3 seasons and TAS has 2 seasons although the 2nd was short obviously.


 

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Report this Feb. 09 2013, 11:20 am

PINK KLINGONS.



Nuff' said.


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Report this Feb. 09 2013, 1:31 pm

Quote: Beershark @ Feb. 07 2013, 7:02 pm

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>Yes they can.....and I just did.

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not to sound rude, but its not your call to make



Paramounts policy, at the times thoe episodes/films were in production, was that TAS was not canon.


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Report this Feb. 09 2013, 1:35 pm

Quote: UninvitedGuest @ Feb. 08 2013, 6:09 pm

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>Because TAS was shown on national television with the real voices of most of the actors like shatner, nimoy, etc. It was also created by Gene Roddenberry and distributed by Paramount.

>It seems to complete the 5 year mission basically since TOS has 3 seasons and TAS has 2 seasons although the 2nd was short obviously.

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and both Roddenbery and Paramount discounted TAS as canon.


they way I see it, their involverment amounts to nothing.


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Report this Feb. 09 2013, 7:24 pm

Shows like DS9 and ENT have made a number of references to TAS according to wikipedia.


This official Star trek site also has TAS in its database obviously.

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