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Can't believe how bad DS9 was...

spacesoap

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Report this Nov. 11 2013, 3:26 pm

capchas here are terrible. why do you need so many letters, 4 would be enough for the purpose.


Whatever happened to Bablyon5? killed off & forgotten? never could get into that - far too juvenile.


Just been watching NG, Voyager & DS9 episodes on tele - not aired in any sequence at all.  DS-9 seems to be the most consistant in storyline but can be so very "days of our lives". Thank God for Dax & Kira being easy on th eye.  Odo is interesting both as a Changeling & a human but Quark is the typical softie trying to be a hard businessman - one episode he becomes an arms-dealer & kills off his evil customer to save the innocent millions Sadly the DS9 I've seen in the last week are just soap-opera again.


I still think the original TV series is the best for action & believable aliens - they had two non-humanoid intelligent species (the rock-burrowing "bug" & the "sparkles in the air") more recent series have rarely had aliens of believeable alternate physical bodies - Hollywood again taking the cheap way out with minor cosmetics instead of proper costume.


NG & Voyager both often fall down with trivial main storylines while having really interesting sub-plots whose potential is totally ignored. The most exciting epsidoes are those with the Borg.

EmpokNorStationManager

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Report this Nov. 13 2013, 7:42 am

Have faith @spacesoap.  If you are able to get to the latter seasons, you'll experience a series and storyline that is rivetting and fast-paced.  Full of action, drama, emotion - both good and bad.  


 


I've started rewatching the entire series on Netflix by order...  and some of the earlier seasons have difficult points, but in retrospect, they help build the character backgrounds for what is to come...


That is all.... Empok Nor Station Manager

Pooneil

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Report this Nov. 13 2013, 8:01 am

Quote: EmpokNorStationManager @ Nov. 13 2013, 7:42 am

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>Have faith @spacesoap.  If you are able to get to the latter seasons, you'll experience a series and storyline that is rivetting and fast-paced.  Full of action, drama, emotion - both good and bad.  

>I've started rewatching the entire series on Netflix by order...  and some of the earlier seasons have difficult points, but in retrospect, they help build the character backgrounds for what is to come...

>


I still don't get the "rivetting and fast-paced" thing. The later seasons boasted such action-packed and dramatic gems as "Profit and Lace" and "Prodigal Daughter". Not to mention a couple of thrilling Vic Fontaine episodes, an emotional rollercoaster of a baseball/holosuite episode, and enough soap opera to fill a space station. There's some war stuff as well, and a few battles, if you like that sort of thing...which I don't, not really...But even if you did, only nine out of 26 episodes in the sixth season have anything to do with the plot.


Is it rivetting because you can't wait to skip the next Ferengi episode to get to the "good stuff"?

spacesoap

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Report this Nov. 13 2013, 3:58 pm

actually I quite like the Ferengi episodes ... poor Quark gets shafted in all of them  but mostly gets out reasonably ok in the end.


Not sure where the rest of the station gets "credits" to buy stuff at Quarks as the Federation has done away with money of any kind (or is that just on Earth? so many unexplained plot-holes & inconsistancies) - seems that DS9 is far enough out from the Fed. to keep using old-fashioned social concepts - the Ferengi have always been a backward race so not surprised they still use money & have rich & poor people.

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Report this Nov. 14 2013, 9:38 am

Some of the Ferengi episodes were fun -- I liked the macabre comedy of "Body Parts" -- but they're not what I'd call rivetting or fast-paced contributions to the storyline. 


Not that I mind, since I was a little bored with the storyline anyway...I'm just constantly confused by the particular words people choose to praise DS9.

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Report this Nov. 14 2013, 4:41 pm

I enjoyed the series. It had great episodes. I am cool with Avery Brooks acting. Especially the episode In the Pale Moon Light.


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Report this Dec. 15 2013, 5:38 pm

Quote: Sora @ Jan. 27 2013, 2:18 pm

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>Wow man. Too each his own. DS9 is my favorite of the Trek series, Voyager my 2nd favorite.

>I find DS9 to be flawless. It was more of a complete circle than any other Trek series.

>But everyone is different and has their own likes and dislikes. But I know back in the day, the top 2 series by the majority was considered TOS and TNG, and from what I can see in modern polls and just talking to other fans, I think that TOS has been knocked down the number 3 in the majority list now.

>I'd say TNG is still the most popular, still the most loved by fans overall, but DS9 is definitely number 2.

>Now Voyager not so much, I think the fans are split 50/50 on Voyager. Some love it, some hate it.

>But hey if DS9 isn't your thing, than it isn't your thing, the beauty of Trek is that there's plenty of it to go around, and you're bound to find something you like somewhere.

>


 


I agree although DS9 isn't my favourite it was this show that initially got me interested in ST and made me a fan of it through watching some episodes on Sky. Although I'd say TNG is my favourite now I would say for me DS9 is pretty close second at least for me

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Report this Dec. 23 2013, 8:07 pm

TNG was way too clean-cut for me.  Every single person on the ship was a noble, do-no-wrong knight in shining armor.  They always worked together and solved the problem of that show and moved on.  No interpersonal drama whatsoever.  It's about 7-8 people solving these little problems that present themselves each show and nothing that happens really has any bearing on what happens in the future.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm a huge TNG fan as well, but DS9 just kicks it's ass from here to the Gamma Quandrant and back.  Yes, TNG has Patrick Stewart.  No one on DS9 is Patrick Stewart; he eats them for breakfast.  However, Jonathan Frakes, Marina Sirtis, LeVar Burton and Gates McFadden aren't exactly top notch actors.  Not like Armin Shimmerman or Andrew Robinson or Colm Meaney or Rene Auberjonois or Marc Alaimo anyway. 

DS9's characters are so more realistic.  They have flaws like real people do.  The large cast of supporting characters and the nature of the arcs of DS9 also lend to that realness.  What happens in season 2 actually matters in season 5 and so on. 

Does DS9 have some clunkers?  (Meridian, Let He Who is Without Sin, Jake Sisko).  Yes.  But I prefer it over TNG for how gritty and realistic it is and how much more depth there is to that world than the somewhat sterile nature of TNG.

But, of course that's my opinion since we're talkng about taste.  If you absolutely loath DS9..cool.  You don't have to watch it.

spacesoap

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Report this Dec. 30 2013, 7:26 pm

Given up on TNG - too much soap-opera, half-hearted plots, too much dead dialog just to fill up the time slot.


Not sure why but Sisko just seems wrong to me - a bit wishy-washy. Otherwise (apart from Borg eps of Voyager) DS-9 was better than the others.  However I just saw the eps where they lose DS-9 to the Dominion & then take it back - Galaxy-class spaceships in tight formation that would put WW2 pilots to shame - and Bajoran Gods saving their asses by closing the worm-hole at the last minute ?? Oh, Please !! very disappointing !

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Report this Jan. 01 2014, 6:12 am

I like DS9. It was willing to show the dark side of Star Trek U (vague moral decision making, Sector 31, etc). It took risks and it paid off.

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Report this Jan. 03 2014, 7:55 pm

Wow, I don't understand the original poster, DS9 was the best of the Trek series in my opinion.  It had everything, war, religion, politics, slavery and much more than any other Trek show. Yes, there were some boring stories, way too many Feringee episodes but overall, it was great. To each their own but I just don't get your view. 


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Pooneil

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Report this Jan. 04 2014, 2:14 pm

Quote: lonewriter @ Jan. 03 2014, 7:55 pm

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>Wow, I don't understand the original poster, DS9 was the best of the Trek series in my opinion.  It had everything, war, religion, politics, slavery and much more than any other Trek show. Yes, there were some boring stories, way too many Feringee episodes but overall, it was great. To each their own but I just don't get your view. 

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For some viewers, the war, religion, and politics were the "boring stories" -- and yes, DS9 had way more of them than any other Trek series.

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Report this Jan. 04 2014, 2:25 pm

Quote: Pooneil @ Jan. 04 2014, 2:14 pm

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>For some viewers, the war, religion, and politics were the "boring stories" -- and yes, DS9 had way more of them than any other Trek series.

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I loved those storied. However I get it. And however however I think out of all the corny Trek episodes - DS9's Move Along Home is the best.

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Report this Jan. 04 2014, 9:07 pm

Brooks was pathetic.

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Report this Jan. 05 2014, 1:52 am

seems kinda trolly


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