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The Nexus, Picard, and Kirk...

captain anakin ewing

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Report this Jan. 20 2013, 8:01 pm

Ive just been watching Generations and Ive often had a thought about Picard still being in the Nexus etc.


For the fun of it, I just searched it and it led me to posts here.


In explaining it, a member here pointed out that in Voyager, Troi and Barklay converse and she mentions Picard so therefore Picard wasnt in the Nexus.  That thought led me to think, since Soren and Picard both were in the Nexus as it flew away, Troi and the others died on the surface of Veridian 3 so she couldnt have had conversations with Reggie.


As I continued to watch Generations, things I didnt see, hear or understand in a way before (and a direct line from Guinan that Picard could go any where any time) clearly show me the answer. Any where, any time.


That meant that if Troi and Reggie have that encounter, it stands to reason that the any where and any time Picard chose, with Kirk, and the success of their mission meant all things were restored.


Now, the reason I even write this is twofold..  someone might read it and understand and also,


to get something out of me... as a writer and as a fan I realize that all the years that one notion of the timeline etc was because I didnt catch that one line from Guinan.  I hadnt known anything about the movie beforehand and I intended it that way.  Generations is an emotional movie for me and to be honest, I shed quite a few tears when I saw it in the theater and everytime Ive seen it since.


Kirk's death and realizing that it is how history records his fate, the side of Picard they show, the two Klingon sisters return and the cost to the crew with the loss of the Enterprise D, the very mad Dr Soren (oh these villians and the cost the render to others) and Kirk's true death .. as an original Star Trek fan and remembering Spocks death when I was young (I am nearly 41 now) it just struck such an emotional cord with me at that time in my life.


Watching it just now, after a long time actually, hearing and understanding it in a dif way and seeing it in a different way as well just prompted me to write this...


Damn movie still brings some tears tho...  


Sad but good story.... good story....


I would have loved to have seen Spock, Kirk and Scotty together somehow in the 24th century- I mean, they'd managed to get those three to the future in a believeable way and yet, we never had the chance to see it be "reality" in terms of Trek story or history... 


Bittersweet....  


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Sehlat123

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Report this Jan. 20 2013, 8:34 pm

In explaining it, a member here pointed out that in Voyager, Troi and Barklay converse and she mentions Picard so therefore Picard wasnt in the Nexus.  That thought led me to think, since Soren and Picard both were in the Nexus as it flew away, Troi and the others died on the surface of Veridian 3 so she couldnt have had conversations with Reggie.



Picard and Kirk both left the nexus, and went back to right before they were sucked in. They stopped Soren from destroying the planet, thus keeping Troi and the rest of the crew alive. So no one was left in the nexus, because they left. At the end of generations, we see Picard coming to where the Enterprise crashed, and Troi is there, so obviously, the crew survived, and Picard was not still in the nexus.

captain anakin ewing

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Report this Jan. 21 2013, 9:09 am

brilliant..  just never saw some things for my emotional side of watching star trek...  


Now, I need some help reconciling this new "star trek time frame" in my mind.... lol as they say...

stunned4life

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Report this Jan. 22 2013, 10:08 am

Generations is a mess and they admit that it is.


Yes Picard and Kirk exit the Nexus and prevent the destruction of the star thus saving the Enterprise crew who survived in the saucer landing.


ECHOES? While in the nexus Picard talks to guinen who has no information after her actual rescue from the Nexus. but she does however know that Kirk is there now as well? yup.


MEANING? Picard, kirk, Guinian and Soran have these echoes still in the nexus when the movie ends.


 

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