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Vicsage

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Report this Jan. 18 2013, 7:32 am

I never get one, but this year I gave in  to herd pressure and did.  Next year and the years after that I will not.  Next year they will be using insect dna to create the vaccine instead of the old reliable chicken egg.  I think I'll wait and see how that turns out.

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Report this Jan. 18 2013, 8:48 am

The only time I've gotten the flu shot was when I was in the military - it was required.  If I get the flu, it's usually only for a few hours to a day and never really bad compared to most people.  I just don't see the need to go get poked.

Irina Galliulin

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Report this Jan. 19 2013, 2:05 pm

I had to get a flu shot because my school gives them for free.(


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Report this Jan. 23 2013, 5:45 am

yes i got one, and still got the flu! they are only 60% effect, same thing happened last year but i got the stomach flu, never getting one of those things agian so far 0 for 2, not worth $30 or my time to get another one

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Report this Jan. 24 2013, 7:23 am

Why expose yourself to the virus you're trying to avoid?  I think it is better to rely heavily on vitamins and good nutrition!


Var Miklama--Zakdorn, engineer. "A sound mind in a FULL body!" "Time, like latinum, is a limited quantity in the galaxy."

Gawain_VIII

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Report this Jan. 24 2013, 8:32 am

It is physically impossible for the flu shot to give you the flu.  The shot introduces a dead virus so that your body forms antibodies--those antibodies wait until you're exposed to a live virus and attack it.  Without the vaccine, when your body is exposed to the flu virus, it will start creating antibodies (just like the vaccine will) except by that point, it's too late--you've already been infected!  The nasal mist flu vaccine is similar--it uses a live (but weakened) virus to create the same kinds of antibodies.


The flu vaccine (this year) is only 62% effective because it is a vaccine cocktail made up of 62% of the strains of flue most prevelant in your area in a given season.  The other 38% which it doesn't protect against is significantly rare to make it unlikely you'll get it.


What happens, in most cases, when you get the flue shot... you might have a mild alergy-like reaction... or get the cold, or some other kind of bug (even, potentially, one of the less common strains of flu)... and suddenly you have the flu! The flu shot made you sick.  No, the cold virus made you sick, or some bacteria you ingested from undercooked pork or unwashed hands made you sick and you don't have the flu at all.  Prime example, MatthewHH got a "stomach flu".  Since the flu is an airborne pathogen, it doesn't get to your stomach.  If your guts were tweaked, you had some kind of intestinal or blood-borne bacteria--it was definitely NOT the flu, or even a cold.


As far as exposing yourself to the virus you're trying to avoid--its precisely to build an immunity BEFORE a living, full-strength virus finds you and it's too late.  No point in raising shields AFTER the torpedo has blown a hole in your hull...


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Freyja

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Report this Jan. 25 2013, 4:01 am

I always get a Flu shoot, 1, I work in the Health Service and 2, I have a conditon that means I am more vunerable to this kind of virus/illness.


Since I started having the shot I have never had the 'Flu', a bad cold? yes.

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Report this Jan. 31 2013, 11:28 am

I never get them. I usually end up saying I will, but I never get around to it.

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Report this Jan. 31 2013, 12:15 pm

As much as I hate the feeling of a needle in my arm, I get them every year. I mean, it's better to be sore a day than to be sick for a few weeks or even die from the flu!


"Borg. Sounds Swedish."

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Report this Jan. 31 2013, 1:16 pm

One thing I really don't like about a lot of the vaccines is the fillers that they add to the shot.  Why would they add mercury?

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Report this Jan. 31 2013, 2:27 pm

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Report this Feb. 01 2013, 3:52 am

I had my flu shot:



There's a kind of freedom in being totally screwed, you know things can't get any worse.

Gawain_VIII

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Report this Feb. 01 2013, 11:13 am

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Jan. 31 2013, 1:16 pm

>One thing I really don't like about a lot of the vaccines is the fillers that they add to the shot.  Why would they add mercury?


I was not aware of this. Thank you, Darmokattanagra, for the information.


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Report this Feb. 01 2013, 12:18 pm

I don't get shots for a number of reasons, among them BamBam's citing of ingredients. I've seen shots that contain ingredients like High Fructose Corn Syrup and MSG. Also, the FDA has no definition of a placebo. Most people assume a placebo to be a sugar pill. But because no definition exists, Drug Companies can create a placebo with a known allergen or any number of harmful ingredients (also found in the drug being tested) just to say that "the drug has no more harmful side effects (allergens, etc) than a placebo during testing". 


I also don't hold to Pasteurian quackery. Pasteur stole much of his research form other scientists. The only thing he really did is prove how profitable bad science can be to industry.


The body is a living entity that works by chemisty with acids and bases neutralizing to produce a balanced pH. Certain diseases will arise if the pH shifts to an acidic state, other diseases arise if the body shifts too far into an alkaline state. This is why a balanced diet is critical to maintaining health. Cells must be destroyed when a vaccine is introduced directly through the skin and into the blood. The cellular destruction releases trapped acids that seek neutralization. If the body doesn't have the alkaline materials, from vitamins and nutrients, to balance the acidity, then the body will break down other cells to release trapped alkalines. The problem is that more acidity is introduced in the process and creates a domino effect of cellular decay, which leads to degenerative diseases.


Disease cannot arise if the body is in a healthy state, because the pH level does not provide a nurishing environment. If the body is producing anti-bodies to fight a bacteria or virus, then the body is on its last line of defense... much like driving a car on a spare tire. 


I recommend the medical work of Antoine Bechamp and his Microzymian Theory. 


I think it's funny that Piers Morgan took a flu shot on Dr. Oz to prove how safe these shots are, and then soon after is complaining on CNN that he's under the weather. 

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Report this Feb. 01 2013, 12:26 pm

So much for this thread not turning into an Alex Jones-esque conspiracy theory circle jerk.


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