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Thoughts on Deep Space Nine

fstewardiii

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Report this Feb. 17 2013, 9:03 pm

STNG is my first but DS9 is my second fav and love everything about it. 

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Report this Feb. 21 2013, 9:28 pm

@4_Cardassia:  Over the past year i have watched 6 seasons of ds9, and i have recently reached season7.  I concur with you on first time watching.  I'm a few episodes into season 7 and have enjoyed the good as well as the bad. I think a season or two more would have done the series justice as it was so much more than the others.


@ T'Paul:  I know what you mean about not being sold in the first few episodes, as i was not either.  Stick with it, it gets so much better trust me!!!  oh and definitely let us know  what you think.  I will post after i finish the season 7!  


"When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth."

Pianoeman2001

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Report this Feb. 23 2013, 7:54 pm

Okay this has nothing to do with the show but i recently just purchased the Playmates USS Defiant on Ebay and I was wondering if anyone has the decals to this ship. This one didn't come with the decals and I'm wondering if I should just paint them on or see if anyone has the decals. Bye the way I loved this show but I hated the ending. As much as I love Star Trek they always seem to mess up the ending. Only Voyager had a good ending as far as I'm concerned, and Enterprise? That was a discrace and an insult to all Star Trek fans. Really pissed me off.

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Report this Feb. 25 2013, 10:05 pm

Voyager had a good ending? Really? You must have watched a parallel universe version of the show that Janeway later erased.

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4_Cardassia

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Report this Feb. 25 2013, 10:44 pm

Quote: Pianoeman2001 @ Feb. 23 2013, 7:54 pm

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>Bye the way I loved this show but I hated the ending. As much as I love Star Trek they always seem to mess up the ending. Only Voyager had a good ending as far as I'm concerned, and Enterprise? That was a discrace and an insult to all Star Trek fans. Really pissed me off.

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@Pianoeman2001: What bothered you so much about Deep Space Nine's ending? I thought "What You Leave Behind" proved to be one of the most ambitious, touching, and effective conclusions to a science fiction series I've ever seen. I think fans tend to criticize DS9's finale for what it wasn't rather than enjoying it for what it was. Of course, any series finale expected to conclusively resolve multiple storylines and give fitting sendoffs to over a dozen characters is bound to not please everybody. I'm just curious why you feel so strongly against "What You Leave Behind" while thinking highly of Voyager's "Endgame."


 

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Report this Feb. 26 2013, 7:01 pm

Quote: Pianoeman2001 @ Feb. 23 2013, 7:54 pm

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>Okay this has nothing to do with the show but i recently just purchased the Playmates USS Defiant on Ebay and I was wondering if anyone has the decals to this ship. This one didn't come with the decals and I'm wondering if I should just paint them on or see if anyone has the decals. Bye the way I loved this show but I hated the ending. As much as I love Star Trek they always seem to mess up the ending. Only Voyager had a good ending as far as I'm concerned, and Enterprise? That was a discrace and an insult to all Star Trek fans. Really pissed me off.

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I thought that the Ending was great.I hold this episode in high esteem.Just my opinion , But i agree with the Enterprise loved seasons1-4 hated the last episode.It made me think everything i watched in the four seasons(not the hotel)was all just a holodeck program AAAAAAAAAH.!!!


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T'Paul

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Report this Feb. 28 2013, 5:13 pm

I just finished the second season of DS9. I don't honestly think Season II is better than Season I, as it was suggested here recently. Instead, I say that it's about equal to Season I, with all the same (aforementioned) strengths and weaknesses.


Additionally, I'm into Season III now and very happy that the Dominion storm viewers of this series inevitably could hear rumbling in the distance for so long, is finally come. Things have finally gotten real and I'm so ready for this series to prove itself to me!


One thing of note:


With the huge ensemble cast, it seems that two seasons wasn't quite enough for me to become firmly attached to all the main characters. They just haven't all become completely endeared to me yet. I still need a little convincing where one or two of them are concerned. However, overall, I basically like everyone in the show.

scatkatjay1980

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Report this Mar. 02 2013, 1:00 pm

I love this show and each time I watch it I wish it would have never ended. It it a beautiful story about the love between a father and son who through tragedy had to look out for each other no matter what. I also like the way the other characters round out the whole series. They are family even though they are not the same species. Just thinking about it makes me want to watch a few episodes on Netflix right now.

Pianoeman2001

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Report this Mar. 03 2013, 3:38 pm

Ok, everyone is asking me why I didnt like the ending of DS9. Here's the thing. I loved the show so much. Like SCATKTJAY1980 was saying in her post they were really like a family. I loved how Sisko with all his responsiblities always had time for his son. This is missing in the average family today. But besides that I loved how they got into the Klingon, and Cardasian cultures. You really got to know the species. I loved the Founders and their story. I especially loved how they got the Romulans into the war. This gave me a real strong respect for Sisko. That man did not get the credit he deserved. What pissed me off is how they left Jake just standing there staring out the window wondering where his father was. Did he die? I'm not clear on that. He fell in the fire caves fighting DuKat and that's the last you see of him. Then you see him come to Cassidy like a ghost. Was he a ghost? I don't know. And what is to become of Jake?  I just don't think it was right leaving off that way. Dont get me wrong. The show itself was my favorite out of them all and I loved them all. What I was saying about Voyager was at least in the end you had some closure. They got home. I know everyone is asking me what about the Maquis? Do they go to prison? I dont know. But at least they got home. I respect everyone's opinion here so feel free to bring up any points you have. I much rather talk about Star Trek than whats going on in the world today. Star Trek at least gives us peace and takes us away from all the hardships today. God bless!

Pianoeman2001

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Report this Mar. 03 2013, 3:48 pm

Oh and one more thing. The ending of Enterprise was a discrace. It looked like they just threw that together over a drunken weekend. You all have to agree with me what they did to Trip was so wrong. Hell if you look at all the episodes that guy was the hero in 9 out of 10 of them.  That show had so much potential. I liked how they summed up why the Klingons looked human durring the original series. I liked how Dr. Soong was Data's great grandfather. I dont like how they saw the Romulans before their time and how they had a cloaking device before their time. I especialy didnt like that the Suliban had a cloaking device. But the killing of Trip was the biggest thing that got me angry. I also hated the reason why they killed the show. They said "we had nothing left to write about". Are you kidding me? What about the fans? I bet each and every one of you along with myself have ideas for the show. Why couldnt they put together a competition amongst the fans for new ideas? Scripts? New pilots? The whole reason we are fans of this franchise is because we all think outside the box. We are people of ideas from all walks of life, races, religions, careers, whatever. We like the future that Gene Rodenberry painted for us. Don't tell me we couldn't keep that franchise growing. God Bess you all!  

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Report this Mar. 04 2013, 5:18 pm


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Ok, everyone is asking me why I didnt like the ending of DS9. Here's the thing. I loved the show so much. Like SCATKTJAY1980 was saying in her post they were really like a family. I loved how Sisko with all his responsiblities always had time for his son. This is missing in the average family today. But besides that I loved how they got into the Klingon, and Cardasian cultures. You really got to know the species. I loved the Founders and their story. I especially loved how they got the Romulans into the war. This gave me a real strong respect for Sisko. That man did not get the credit he deserved. What pissed me off is how they left Jake just standing there staring out the window wondering where his father was. Did he die? I'm not clear on that. He fell in the fire caves fighting DuKat and that's the last you see of him. Then you see him come to Cassidy like a ghost. Was he a ghost? I don't know. And what is to become of Jake?  I just don't think it was right leaving off that way. Dont get me wrong. The show itself was my favorite out of them all and I loved them all. What I was saying about Voyager was at least in the end you had some closure. They got home. I know everyone is asking me what about the Maquis? Do they go to prison? I dont know. But at least they got home. I respect everyone's opinion here so feel free to bring up any points you have. I much rather talk about Star Trek than whats going on in the world today. Star Trek at least gives us peace and takes us away from all the hardships today. God bless!



 


"The Prophets saved my life." He isn't dead and he tells Kassidy that he will be back. What bothers me about the ending is that Kassidy is pregnant. They'll be a fatherless child so he can experience the wisdom of the prophets? He's leaving his life behind. Getting him past Jennifer's death was not how the prophets saved him. He was saved in the fire caves for destroying the book and killing Dukat. He sacrificed himself, by jumping at Dukat and sending them both flying, for the prophets and the Bajoran people, into the fire. The prophets rewarded him for this. I don't like how campy the final scenes are, don't get me wrong. But I think the story is worth a re-watch to see what I am saying. 


I hear you about the world events. From what we are doing to our food to international threats of terrorism and our response to it, to the world economy, the sequester, the ban on Gay Marriage in 2013, Republicans and Democrats not being able to come to the table, racism and hate in America, we have a host of problems that Star Trek seems to say we can solve. I think it we just respect each other's opinions more and were empathetic to their plight, applied logic when it's needed, we'd live in a better world. 


I was watching Lincoln yesterday, not to get off topic, and it put me in tears. The idea that a man had to say "equal in laws, not equal" in 1865, less than 150 years ago, to get the 13th Amendment passed, is just insane and the mixture of rage and sadness that stirred in me as I was watching the movie, left me holding back tears. How can we continue to wage war like this? When will we learn to trust one-another? Why do we fear everyone? If I, as a man, solved my problems by taking out a gun and shooting someone, I would be put in prison. Why would I allow my government, all our enemies, to do the same? No matter what the problem, we don't need to resort to violence. At least the 13th Amendment passed without violence in the street. At least, none shown in the movie. 


Its stories are about the depth and complexity of human interaction and relationships. It studies us and asks us to look within ourselves, to relate, to ask how would we respond to all that is in their world?

Pianoeman2001

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Report this Mar. 06 2013, 2:45 pm

Quote: HaventGotALife @ Mar. 04 2013, 5:18 pm

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> >>>Ok, everyone is asking me why I didnt like the ending of DS9. Here's the thing. I loved the show so much. Like SCATKTJAY1980 was saying in her post they were really like a family. I loved how Sisko with all his responsiblities always had time for his son. This is missing in the average family today. But besides that I loved how they got into the Klingon, and Cardasian cultures. You really got to know the species. I loved the Founders and their story. I especially loved how they got the Romulans into the war. This gave me a real strong respect for Sisko. That man did not get the credit he deserved. What pissed me off is how they left Jake just standing there staring out the window wondering where his father was. Did he die? I'm not clear on that. He fell in the fire caves fighting DuKat and that's the last you see of him. Then you see him come to Cassidy like a ghost. Was he a ghost? I don't know. And what is to become of Jake?  I just don't think it was right leaving off that way. Dont get me wrong. The show itself was my favorite out of them all and I loved them all. What I was saying about Voyager was at least in the end you had some closure. They got home. I know everyone is asking me what about the Maquis? Do they go to prison? I dont know. But at least they got home. I respect everyone's opinion here so feel free to bring up any points you have. I much rather talk about Star Trek than whats going on in the world today. Star Trek at least gives us peace and takes us away from all the hardships today. God bless!



 


"The Prophets saved my life." He isn't dead and he tells Kassidy that he will be back. What bothers me about the ending is that Kassidy is pregnant. They'll be a fatherless child so he can experience the wisdom of the prophets? He's leaving his life behind. Getting him past Jennifer's death was not how the prophets saved him. He was saved in the fire caves for destroying the book and killing Dukat. He sacrificed himself, by jumping at Dukat and sending them both flying, for the prophets and the Bajoran people, into the fire. The prophets rewarded him for this. I don't like how campy the final scenes are, don't get me wrong. But I think the story is worth a re-watch to see what I am saying. 


I hear you about the world events. From what we are doing to our food to international threats of terrorism and our response to it, to the world economy, the sequester, the ban on Gay Marriage in 2013, Republicans and Democrats not being able to come to the table, racism and hate in America, we have a host of problems that Star Trek seems to say we can solve. I think it we just respect each other's opinions more and were empathetic to their plight, applied logic when it's needed, we'd live in a better world. 


I was watching Lincoln yesterday, not to get off topic, and it put me in tears. The idea that a man had to say "equal in laws, not equal" in 1865, less than 150 years ago, to get the 13th Amendment passed, is just insane and the mixture of rage and sadness that stirred in me as I was watching the movie, left me holding back tears. How can we continue to wage war like this? When will we learn to trust one-another? Why do we fear everyone? If I, as a man, solved my problems by taking out a gun and shooting someone, I would be put in prison. Why would I allow my government, all our enemies, to do the same? No matter what the problem, we don't need to resort to violence. At least the 13th Amendment passed without violence in the street. At least, none shown in the movie. 


I understand what you're saying about the Prophets saving his life but are you sure about that? It seemed like a lot of symbolism to me. And like you I was angry that he left Cassidy pregnant and his son wondering what the Hell happened to his father? Not to mention everyone else just went on like nothing happened. Voyager's ending at least had some sort of closure. They got home. I know they should have elaborated more on what happened to the characters but the most important thing is that they got home. Sisko said he will be back but didn't say when. The Prophets really pissed me off in this one. As a Star Trek fan I expect concrete answers. This one left me wondering. And since I own the series I've watched it over and over and I still want more answers. I'm sure they're not going to make a movie about DS9 so we will never know. Thanks alot Prophets! Come to think of it, I got annoyed everytime the Prophets got involved. They kept interupting. You now annoy me more than the Blah Blah Bajorans did. What a complaining bunch. The Prophets kept interupting and the Bajorans kept complaining. LOL. Other than that I loved the show and Sisko was a great captian. General Martok and Gowron were awesome. Garak kicked ass too. Odo? Gotta love that guy. Morn? Me. Quark and Rom like Ralph Cramden and Ed Norton. Fantastic show.

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Report this Mar. 09 2013, 11:18 pm

This is my third to favorit series, which is weird because it has Odo, I love that guy . Overall it is a great series.


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Pianoeman2001

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Report this Mar. 11 2013, 3:57 pm

Odo to me was one of THE best characters in all the series. I really enjoyed his character.

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Report this Mar. 24 2013, 10:27 pm

Yes, they did leave it open when or how much Sisko would be seeing Cassidy and Jake again.  Cassidy still had a job as a freighter captain, so she probably stayed on the station.  I like to think that Jake helped out with the baby.  I'm sure Kira would have too.  Yes, they were leaving room for a movie sequel or a followup in another show, and it's too bad it never happened.  My own feeling is that Sisko is a prophet and will pop in and interrupt Cassidy and Jake anywhere from every few days to every few weeks, just like the prophets interrupted him.


The prophets did say he and Cassidy would find nothing but sorrow.


 

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