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Extract MIDI files from Judgement Rites?

vulcanmirror

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Report this Dec. 18 2012, 1:26 pm

Has anyone had any experience with this? Considering how big the game is, it would be very time-consuming to record them all one by one.

I've had experience with ripping MIDI from Sierra and Lucasarts games which generally has been very simple in comparison. All kind of Windows games are also often easier to rip the MIDI files
from such as Captain Claw, Spider-Man and Venom: Separation Anxiety or Final Fantasy 7 to name a few.



But when it comes to Judgement Rites, I'm kinda lost. Has anyone else attempted this before?

25th Anniversary would be meaningless since it (at least my copy) only has MT-32 MIDI and to my experience, such files cannot be extracted accurately from the game. They MUST be recorded within the game to get the instruments right since the files are not independent, unlike General Midi. At least this is the case with all of Sierra's games unfortunately.


 

zergis

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Report this Dec. 24 2012, 3:20 am

Haven't played Judgement Rites, so can't say for sure how that game worked. I think DosBox has an option to record all MIDI data though (should be CTRL-ALT-F8, and the data would be stored in the Capture subfolder), which I think includes System Exclusive data (which was the method games sent sound effects as instrument patches to the Roland MT-32), so if you can record exactly the data that the game sent to the MIDI port, you'd have a MIDI file that could be played without a Roland MT-32, but that still includes the SysEx data that would be necessary for it to play properly if you get hold of one.

vulcanmirror

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Report this Dec. 26 2012, 6:27 am

Quote: zergis @ Dec. 24 2012, 3:20 am

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>Haven't played Judgement Rites, so can't say for sure how that game worked. I think DosBox has an option to record all MIDI data though (should be CTRL-ALT-F8, and the data would be stored in the Capture subfolder), which I think includes System Exclusive data (which was the method games sent sound effects as instrument patches to the Roland MT-32), so if you can record exactly the data that the game sent to the MIDI port, you'd have a MIDI file that could be played without a Roland MT-32, but that still includes the SysEx data that would be necessary for it to play properly if you get hold of one.

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You didn't really read my whole post, did you? I of course already knew about DosBox's recording option as well as MIDI loopback drivers. I thought that recording them one by one would be too time-consuming which is why I asked specifically for ripping the actual files. With some DOS-only utilities I actually managed to establish that they actually used the XMI format (which usually is a much more common format in later Windows games), but I couldn't find a way to extract the music files from the game file archives or acquire any information about the file except size of all the different files.


 


However, some days ago I just felt like playing through the game and at the same time I randomly recorded some music and before I knew it, I had recorded most of the music. It is actually neither as time-consuming to record and work with the files to extract only the music (there are some MIDI based sound effects in the game), it seems I've just gotten very comfortable with the fact that I've gained so much experience and knowledge that I almost always can rip the actual files themselves that I feel too lazy to record them. Of course, like I said, there are ALWAYS many advantages with working with the original files. And when you manage to rip the music files from the actual game file, it is not too rare that you'll find some totally unused music or unused variations of themes among the game files.


 


However, here is the result of me recording some music while enjoying the game. It wasn't really planned, I just thought I might as well record some music while I'm at it playing the game. I'd say my videos cover at least 80% of the music in the game.


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hhx_Q_TDGc


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKpH2P5iUn0


 

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