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The Khan Connection

JackSparrowJive

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Report this Dec. 10 2012, 10:43 pm

1) The trailer shows that the villain has superhuman abilities.


 


2) John Harrison was the name of one of the crew members from the episode "Space Seed", where Khan was found.


 


Therefore, deductive reasoning tells us that either Khan or one of his minions killed the real Harrison and took his place.


 


Regarding the "revenge" spoken of in the trailer, the entire reason Khan and company left Earth was because the populace rebelled against their rulership. It goes without saying they will want revenge against them, even if it is hundreds of years in the future.


 


Thanks for reading!  B-)

Blockman

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Report this Dec. 11 2012, 2:50 am

lol. are you me?


 


There's a bit more to the "connection" as well, but I've already gone into that around here before.


Blockman

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Report this Dec. 11 2012, 4:09 am

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"When Cumberbatch healed the girl did he do it through hocus pocus or through Spock's Brain type medical skills"


 


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Maybe his sheer "genetics". I dunno. lol


Mitchz95

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Report this Dec. 11 2012, 5:34 am

2) John Harrison was the name of one of the crew members from the episode "Space Seed", where Khan was found.


His last name was Harrison, but we don't know his first name.


Therefore, deductive reasoning tells us that either Khan or one of his minions killed the real Harrison and took his place.


Or, considering the fact that this is an alternative universe that branched off twenty five years ago, perhaps the Starfleet officer went bad and got some crazy powers along the way.


I think "John Harrison" is a pseudonym.


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Vger23

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Report this Dec. 11 2012, 11:05 am

I don't think there is any evidence one way or the other who the character is. We know it is a character played by Benedict Cumberbatch and we know that an official Paramount press photo (NOT something released by the creative team, but by Paramount's marketing team) has named the character as John Harrison. That's all we know. Everything else is speculation...sometimes wild speculation at best.


Fun? Yes...! But nothing more than sheer guesswork at this point.

wagontraintothestars1968

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Report this Dec. 11 2012, 1:38 pm

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>Did Khan's men have superpowers?

>I admit they are superhuman but Kirk was able to defeat Khan in a fight. But thats Shatner Kirk of course. I'm still not convinced Khan could defeat Spock in a fight and that hes impervious to the neck pinch but this is an AU universe.

>When Cumberbatch healed the girl did he do it through hocus pocus or through Spock's Brain type medical skills?

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i remember in an episode with the spores kirk said spock had twice his strength and in space seed kahn said said he has 5 times kirks strength so i don't think khan would have any problems with spock.


i was reading some of the people who have already seen the 9 minute clip and they mention a child who was sick and someone helping the child. they mentioned the child could be khan and gets help geneticly. still the 9 minute clip wont reveal much of anything but the trouble everyone has gone thru the past few days, this movie better be good.

Blockman

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Report this Dec. 11 2012, 4:01 pm

^^^^


Cumberbatch comes in on the two parents.


MoppyCGDaniels

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Report this Dec. 11 2012, 4:08 pm

As far as I'm concerned the character John Harrison has obviously the abilety to heal people. IDK if that makes him to some type of superhuman he could also be an allien . I'd like to encline with Mitchz95 about the last name. Were the characters Clark which wanted their child to got healed by Harrison on TOS before?


 


What happens when the villain plus the story of the movie as all to well predicted got nothing to do with "augments"? For all we know Benedict Cumberbatch plays a completly new role.


 


And what does have his abilety got to do with being some sort of mass destruction weapon or these structured spheres which were shown also?

Blockman

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Report this Dec. 11 2012, 4:15 pm

Quote: ServalanFan @ Dec. 11 2012, 7:07 pm


 


"What?"


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Did you see the 9 minutes?


wagontraintothestars1968

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Report this Dec. 12 2012, 12:31 am

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>"What?"

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>Did you see the 9 minutes?

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No I'd  be very smug if I had though? I have to trawl the internet waiting for people to break their word about keeping the first 9 minutes secret until the Hobbit Opening.

What I was asking is that you said Cumberbatch came in on the two parents. What did you mean? Did he approach the parents with the sick child and make them sell out to save their child, was he a friend of theirs, was he a shyster selling snake oil?

 


some of the reporters that were invited to see the pre-screening of the 9 minute clip mentioned a few things about it. what i got out of it was that it still doesn't tell you who benny is playing. the part of him coming in on the parents with the sick child is right and alice eve is playing carol marcus. other than that i think friday night there are going to be either angry trekkers or more speculation from the abis. i hope the 9 minute clip makes it on the internet because i've heard that it will will not be released unless someone takes a................ well its only a 2 day wait lol

Blockman

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Report this Dec. 12 2012, 2:26 am

Quote: ServalanFan @ Dec. 11 2012, 10:05 pm

"What I was asking is that you said Cumberbatch came in on the two parents. What did you mean? Did he approach the parents with the sick child and make them sell out to save their child, was he a friend of theirs, was he a shyster selling snake oil"

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They definitely don't know who he is. (At least the father doesn't, but I doubt the mother does either) It's really quick so anything I say could be considered giving it away.


Skyjammer0

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Report this Dec. 12 2012, 5:36 am

I didn't see where they said Carol Marcus was in it. I did see however, that the sick child was a girl. Whatever significance that is.


 


The intrigue deepens!

trekhed68

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Report this Dec. 12 2012, 12:40 pm

Quote: JackSparrowJive @ Dec. 10 2012, 10:43 pm

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>2) John Harrison was the name of one of the crew members from the episode "Space Seed", where Khan was found.


Mm, sorry...but Memory Alpha contains exactly one entry for John Harrison, and it's the villian from the new movie. The only one of Khan's followers who was explicitly named was Joachim, who dies during the climactic Mutara Nebula battle scene near the end of TWOK.


 


 


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wagontraintothestars1968

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Report this Dec. 12 2012, 4:37 pm

I THINK ITS MISTER LESLIE. he was on the bridge when khan cut out life support to the bridge and he was also in where no man has gone before. in fact he was in almost every episode. somehow i think its him.

wagontraintothestars1968

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Report this Dec. 12 2012, 11:25 pm

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>Sorry Trekhed but you and I thought the same when I initially read JackSparrow's post. Harrison (no first name given) was an Enterprise officers.

>JackSparrowJive speculated that one of Khan's followers knocked off Kirk's officer and took his identity.

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yeah i just read something about that with the mirror universe where khan won the war but i don't think it might be this. i read somewhere from a blog with an interesting idea. that peter wellers character goes to look and finds the botany bay. he ends up killing john harrison which is a real crew members name and has kahn surgicly look like harrison and that how he is khan without looking like him.

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