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So, who is the villain now that we have the teaser trailer?

Xaero

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Report this Dec. 06 2012, 6:33 pm

From the trailer: Wants nothing for peace.  He has returned (to earth?).  He is not happy.  Rhetorical speech.


From the writers: "Canon" character.  No mention of if its TOS Canon or not so it could be any series (like Enterprise).


Who is it?


Khan is my guess as he fits all criteria.  Gary Mitchell does fit too since he is floating dead in space (comics which are canon too) but I don't think Gary talks like Khan (hint of Khan style speech in the trailer).  


I can't remember any big bad guys from Enterprise.  We know they have an Enterprise reference or two with the last movie so it could be someone from that time period.  Who did Archer piss off back then?

Admiral James T. Kirk

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Report this Dec. 06 2012, 6:47 pm

I think it may like a weird lovechild of Kahn and Gary..... just saying

Mitchz95

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Report this Dec. 06 2012, 9:14 pm

Gary Mitchell does fit too since he is floating dead in space (comics which are canon too) but I don't think Gary talks like Khan (hint of Khan style speech in the trailer).


Actually the comics aren't canon.


I can't remember any big bad guys from Enterprise.  We know they have an Enterprise reference or two with the last movie so it could be someone from that time period.  Who did Archer piss off back then?


He pissed off a lot of people.


Let's see...Future Guy and the Suliban (don't think so), the Xindi-Reptilians (definitely not), Terra Prime (that could work), Section 31 (also possible)


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Report this Dec. 07 2012, 9:03 am

So, I think I would be the entire farm on a couple of things:


 


1. It's not going to be a "crossover" villian. So forget what you saw in DS9 or ENT or whatever. General audiences aren't going to care about "Section 31" or Xindi or anytihng obscure like that. I loved DS9, and even I don't care what Section 31 is all about. I doubt the average viewer, who this is targeted at, is going to either.


2. The filmmakers want to mis-direct us and get us spinning as much as possible. It's part of the fun. So, anything you THINK you've picked up on isn't going to really be right. 


3. It's not Khan. 

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Report this Dec. 07 2012, 3:10 pm

There'd be no Kirk without Sisko!


 



Kuamor

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Report this Dec. 07 2012, 5:27 pm

If Quinto wants out, dont give him the death scene Nimoy and Shatner spent years to earn...just have debris fall on him and be done with it!


 

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Report this Dec. 08 2012, 6:12 am

My guess is that,


The romulan from Star Trek 2009 survived & pursued....


Energize! 

Mitchz95

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Report this Dec. 08 2012, 9:09 am

Remember, the "Countdown Comics" were used to lead into the last movie.


Yeah, but they were never really considered canon. Just an apocryphal prequel.


I don't see an Enterprise villain as a viable bad guy.


Neither do I.


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Report this Dec. 08 2012, 11:16 am

So we all agree it's Lore than?

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Report this Dec. 08 2012, 2:43 pm

Quote: Doc Boomstick @ Dec. 08 2012, 11:16 am

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>So we all agree it's Lore than?

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Don't be ridiculous! It's actually an evolved Spot who is now an evil humanoid feline. The cat got lost in a quantum singularity while onboard a Holoship, this was caused by the reverse engineering of red matter by the Klingons. Oh and he's quite the detective as while he was on the Holoship the only thing that was playing was Data's Sherlock Holmes Program. 


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Report this Dec. 09 2012, 12:35 pm

The morning the trailer came out, Garth of Izar's Memory Alpha page said "His career dissolved in a dramatic descent INTO DARKNESS...", but it was changed within a day and "darkness" was replaced with "madness".  I think Garth better fits what we have seen than either Gary Mitchell or Khan.  My guess is that the blonde is Dr Carol Marcus and either her life or her child's life is threatened/killed by Garth.

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Report this Dec. 09 2012, 12:44 pm

Charlie X 


 

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Report this Dec. 09 2012, 1:41 pm

KHAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Report this Dec. 09 2012, 3:10 pm

This Guy Sounds More Wicked Than Khan... But ya Never Know!

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Report this Dec. 09 2012, 3:26 pm

If you watch the trailer and give it more than a passing thought it is pretty obvious that Benedict Cumberbatch is neither Khan nor Mitchell. He is way too pasty white to be Khan. Plus revenge through mass destruction doesn't really fit Khan, while he did use a WMD, it was only as a last desperate lashing out when all was lost. He would want to conquor, certainly, but he would not want to rule over rubble. The fact that CB's toting a gun that looks like the trusty old BFG 9000 from ID, and sliding down a rope to fight the Klingon rules Mitchell out. Why would a self styled god with god like powers need a gun? or a rope? OR waste his time physically confronting a single Klingon?


On the other hand there is Garth of Izar. Garth has a track record or capriciously ordering genocide, willignness to use weapons of mass destruction, and has a real revenge motive in his mind against the Federation. Lastly, Garth is sfficiently meglomaniacal to make Khan say "that guy is nuts!"


As for the "hands on the glass" think about the fact that in TOS Pike was fried by radiation. Spock was loyal to him above and beyond the call, so it makes sense that the two hands were Spock and pike with the view being from the radiation contaminated side of the glass.


Alice Eve with her bob coif and blue uniform looking like so much like Sally Kellerman is a great red herring.

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