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Tranporters out of order?

jokerje

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Report this Nov. 07 2012, 9:30 am

I always wondered why when something is going wrong on the enterprise and a security team has to go to a specific deck...or maybe a medical team.  Why do they run to the spot and use turbolifts when they could just transport their in seconds?

miklamar

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Report this Nov. 13 2012, 8:12 am

The number of transporters are limited, and perhaps some of them were already being used.


Also, soldiers and enforcement personnel sometimes like to run into battle or a fight, to get their muscles warmed up and their aggressive spirits psyched up.


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jokerje

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Report this Nov. 15 2012, 7:24 am

That may be so but what about medical emergencies...?  Just seemed odd to me...could be their in 2 seconds...but lets run and chance they die

ECH1472

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Report this Nov. 15 2012, 2:15 pm

Yeah, in some instances they'll ask to lock onto the patient and beam them to sick bay, a site to site on the ship. Other times the med team physically goes to the patient. I think it's a case by case basis depending on the severity of the injury. If the patient isn't on board they almost always transport them directly to sick bay..

miklamar

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Report this Nov. 16 2012, 7:12 am

Maybe, too, it depended upon whether or not they liked the patient or how-important they thought the patient was!


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netral

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Report this Nov. 17 2012, 6:29 am

Well, if they transport, there is less time for the redshirts to die! (TOS, I know)

Broadstorm

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Report this Nov. 21 2012, 3:43 pm

Getting into a potential confrontation makes running preferable as the few seconds it takes to rematerialize would make you quite vulnerable.  As for medical emergencies, I have had this same thought, but it basically comes down to writing.  But what about going the other way.  When Kim was back on Earth & got into trouble, and had a tracking device on his ankle, security personnel were sent to retrieve him when they detected that he was trying to remove it.  Why don't they just beam the person with the tracker into a holding cell?

Hugues

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Report this Nov. 23 2012, 3:30 am

Because if they would transport him in a holding cell, nobody could witness the fact he was trying to remove the tracking device. No proof, thus holding him in a cell would be illegal.


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miklamar

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Report this Nov. 26 2012, 7:08 am

Maybe his foot would have exploded, like criminals' heads in Running Man.


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Broadstorm

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Report this Nov. 28 2012, 3:07 pm

Quote: Hugues @ Nov. 23 2012, 3:30 am

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>Because if they would transport him in a holding cell, nobody could witness the fact he was trying to remove the tracking device. No proof, thus holding him in a cell would be illegal.

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But there would be a record of the signal being transmitted & received.  Also, if they beamed him in while he was tampering with it, he would rematerialize in the same position, and would therefore be seen tampering with it.

keikeya

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Report this Nov. 28 2012, 7:30 pm

Would it be safe to assume there were various security officers spaced throughout the ship? You know, so rather than having to be transported in (btw, I like what someone else said about the few seconds it takes to rematerialize making them vulnerable to attack. That seems a good enough reason to me not to do it) or try to go through several decks to get there, maybe they just have someone on guard at each deck. It's never really covered, but there are over a thousand people on board, so I think it's safe to assume that they had many security officers.


As for Riker or Worf always getting to the emergency first, well, they clearly just crossed their arms and blinked their eyes to get there.

miklamar

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Report this Dec. 11 2012, 12:43 pm

In one of the books I've been reading, two corpsmen come and carry a wounded officer off the Bridge on a stretcher.  Apparently, when the ship is under attack and power is being diverted to the shields and weapons, medics need to use the stairs or Jefferies Tubes.


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Broadstorm

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Report this Dec. 12 2012, 3:27 pm

Quote: miklamar @ Dec. 11 2012, 12:43 pm

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>In one of the books I've been reading, two corpsmen come and carry a wounded officer off the Bridge on a stretcher.  Apparently, when the ship is under attack and power is being diverted to the shields and weapons, medics need to use the stairs or Jefferies Tubes.

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That, and consider the possibility that a well timed (from the other side's perspective) hit could render the transporters inoperable during a transport.


I don't know if anything was ever established, but it would make sense to have a ship divided into zones much like a city with police / security personnel primarily assigned to patrol a certain area so that there would always be someone nearby and others could move in from other areas as needed.

miklamar

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Report this Dec. 13 2012, 10:35 am

Good point.  I wonder if an opposing ship could target your turbo-lifts.  That would at least slow them down, in getting from one part of their ship to another.


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Report this Dec. 13 2012, 3:53 pm

Quote: miklamar @ Dec. 13 2012, 10:35 am

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>Good point.  I wonder if an opposing ship could target your turbo-lifts.  That would at least slow them down, in getting from one part of their ship to another.

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They should be able to as long as they can locate them.  We have seen numerous examples of shots targeting specific portions of a ship rather than just trying to hit anywhere.  I would think that many factions would have detailed enough sensors to analyze the network of turboshafts.  However, that would be rather inefficient.  Attacking shields, weapons, drive, etc would be better than trying to knock out one of several paths from the area that took damage and might have injured crew to sickbay.  Of course, this also gets into another question.  Given how precise the transporters need to be to put someone in a corridor rather than rematerializing them partially into a solid object, why don't they use such precise targeting for weapons?  Even when they target specific systems, I haven't really gotten the impression that they were THAT precise.

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