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Wesley Crusher.

ABfield

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Report this Apr. 09 2013, 7:24 pm

Just finished watching "Journeys End", and I have to say I am very sad at the outcome for Mr. Crusher. He had such a bright future, and looked like he would have an amazing career in Starfleet. One of my favorite missions was when he went with Piccard on a Shuttlepod and he ended up saving Piccard.


So imagine my disappointment tonight when I see Wesley quit Star Fleet and become a time traveling hippie. What a waste!

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Report this Apr. 10 2013, 12:22 pm

If you watch Nemesis , during the wedding scene you see Wesley in a Starfleet dress uniform. So, at some point he returns

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Report this Apr. 10 2013, 4:07 pm

Why Don't we Just Put Him  In A TOS Red Shirt,And Be Done With It!!

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Report this May. 14 2013, 12:01 pm

Working Daze

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Report this May. 17 2013, 4:47 am

It became too convenient to have one person--such as Wesley or Data--solving all the ship's problems, single-handedly.  In reality, it should have been more of a team effort.


True, Wesley was intelligent and not restricted by Starfleet regulations or training.  But, how could he possibly be as smart as the writers made him, at his youthful age?


In a Cold Fusion book (I think it was), Wesley displayed his many talents as a Traveler.  He seemed more natural in that role.


Var Miklama--Zakdorn, engineer. "A sound mind in a FULL body!" "Time, like latinum, is a limited quantity in the galaxy."

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Report this May. 18 2013, 10:17 am

I still like the Wesley Crushers!!!  shirt on BBT.. Too funny. I would like to know where he came form in the last movie? He is at the wedding of Troy and #2. But Last we saw him was he not moving on to some other dimension or something..

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Report this May. 18 2013, 10:34 am

I can agree, now, that his character wasn't given the best material, but when the show aired, I liked him.  I just don't think the writers knew what to do with him, as he was essentially Gene Roddenberry's own Mary Sue.


When TNG premiered, Wil Wheaton was the only name I knew of all the actors. When Reading Rainbow started, I was slightly too old for it, so at the time I'd never heard of LeVar Burton (had never seen Roots).   I knew Wheaton from Stand By Me and he was my favorite from that movie.  I didn't have a crush on him, though. I never had age appropriate teen crushes.  (When I was 14 I had a crush on Lance Henriksen.  I have issues.) I thought it was weird to have a kid on the bridge, but I like his character well enough.  I never got the anti-Wesley cruelty that was usually spread by adults that trickled down to Wheaton himself.  I like Wil Wheaton, his blogs are enjoyable and I read his book "Just A Geek" and it gave a lot of insight on how Star Trek, and subsequently, the anti-Wesley sentiment, effected him.  He's a very honest individual and really shares with his fans (he and Aaron Douglas are my favorite "fanboy" actors).


I've always thought it would be nice to see a new series with an older (aging make-up?) Admiral Crusher. 

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Report this May. 26 2013, 11:09 pm

He wasn't too bad but I think nobody really likes kid geniuses who act like a know-it-all. He seemed to look less annoying once he got rid of his ugly clothes and got a starfleet uniform. However, I disliked Wesley the most once he began attending starfleet because then he began to behave arrogantly and that really ticks me off. I can tolerate the annoying kid genius but I can't take an arrongant dude who thinks he's grand on all levels.

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Report this May. 28 2013, 2:36 pm

I think the writers didn't know how to deal with teen angst correctly. Being arrogant is part of the job description of being a teenager.  


Thankfully they figured out how to do it with Jake and Nog. I loved Nog's growth.

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Report this May. 29 2013, 1:07 pm

I didn't think he was childish or annoying when I started watching TNG back in the times cause i was a kid myself (way younger than him) and he was just one of the grown-ups for me.


As i watched more again much later, I realized what a kid he was compared to the rest, but still thought he was a great character. And completed the crew.


People write he was naive or childish but the way i see it, it's not necessarily about him being childish, but the point is that was his basic nature.


It would have been naive to throw tantrums or act stubborn or whatever teenagers do, when he was always friendly, calm, easily excited, never afraid to show what his state of mind was, a 'geek'. All these, but not dumb, not naive.


He outsmarted the others occasionally because, as the traveller said, he was 'Mozart', he understood the reality of time and the universe. So, maybe he was a last-minute add to the show or Wheaton was just an 'obvious' actor or they failed to build a child character for the show, but this is how I built his character in my mind.


Eventually he became like the traveller, so doesn't that mean he was on another level so-to-speak, compared to the others?


And yeah, loved the episode where he took the shuttle trip with Picard. In that episode, he was relateable. Like smeone said, he also gave new depths to other characters.


By the way, never new he was unpopular.

bunkey

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Report this May. 29 2013, 4:29 pm

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By the way, never new he was unpopular.


He was hated, and still is by some.  Wil Wheaton STILL gets tweets about how he ruined Star Trek.  He usually retweets them with snark.


I highly recommend his book "Just A Geek" which is a biograohy of sorts about being Wesley Crusher and coming to terms with it.

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Report this May. 30 2013, 2:51 am

That's absurd. I think some of the characters may be less interesting than others, but that he ruined the show? Ok, still possible if someone can hate a character so passionately. But hate mail? Well then.


Anyway, he must've taken it really hard if he wrote a book about it. Maybe i'll have a look.

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Report this May. 30 2013, 6:35 am

He did take is very hard, remember he was 17 when he left the show.  Imagine all your teenage angst and insecurities and add growing up in front of millions and having hate campaigns against your character (and you) on the internet or going to conventions and seeing "Wesley Must Die" merchandise.


It's a very good tale.  Wheaton is incredibly honest and open about everything, including his regrets for leaving the show.  But it has a happy ending and now he's a secure, prolific writer who tweets about home brewing and the LA Kings.

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Report this May. 30 2013, 8:01 am

Quote: bunkey @ May. 30 2013, 6:35 am

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>He did take is very hard, remember he was 17 when he left the show.  Imagine all your teenage angst and insecurities and add growing up in front of millions and having hate campaigns against your character (and you) on the internet or going to conventions and seeing "Wesley Must Die" merchandise.

>It's a very good tale.  Wheaton is incredibly honest and open about everything, including his regrets for leaving the show.  But it has a happy ending and now he's a secure, prolific writer who tweets about home brewing and the LA Kings.

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 Yeah I'd agree with that. I even enjoy his guest spots on The Big Bang Theory.

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Report this May. 30 2013, 8:06 am

I love that he owns the hatred now, especially on BBT.  When Sheldon calls him the Jar Jar Binks of Star Trek and he does the voice, I fist pumped.  


I don't get attacking children because they play a part on TV. Chandler Riggs (The Walking Dead) gets a LOT of that and he's only 14.  So much so that Wil Wheaton made a video with him.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJOft89kOMM


Jack Gleeson of Game of Thrones gets a lot of hate too. He's 21, but in my eyes he's still just a boy.


Grown ass people pickig on children.  Oy.


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