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Alpha Quardrant after Domminoin War

Martol

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Report this Oct. 27 2012, 9:19 pm

Ok so here is my spin on what may have happened, shortly after the war, the Klingon empire is in disary millitaryly speaking having taking the most loses of any of the powers save the Cardasians, which means they would be in no postion to go to war with anyone and would most likely move to a colser aliance with the Federation, especialy with Worf now an ambasador.With Cardasia most likely a smoldering ruin they would most likey rely on Federaion aid, as the saying goes dont bite the hand that feeds. The Romulans and Breen entered the war latter and most likely suffered the least losses but the loss of Romulas and Remus would most likely send the Empire back into there isolationisim in an atempt to rebuild, I can't say about the Breen if they would keep the treaty they signed at the end of the war. the only major power in the alpha quardrant no involved in the dominon war was the Ferengi aliance. which would make them along with the federation the new power in the alpha quardrant

thatguyyouhate

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Report this Nov. 04 2012, 8:16 am

I think that the Federation would be on top. Althogh they did take heavy losses, Voyager brought back that really cool armour and torpedos. They could outfit their ships and become the dominat power for the next 25-30 years. Section 31 seemed to think of Romulus as a threat after the war so I'm not sure about them. The Klingons and Cardasians would take years to rebiuld. The Cardasians, now with a civilian governmet might join the federation futher down the line. The Breen would end up pay war reperation for the next 100 years. The Ferengi would gain that much, after war, people will be spending their time rebiuld, not buy stuff from the Ferengi. (All the main power are self sufficant so don't have to buy materials from them.)

Fleet Admiral Braxton

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Report this Nov. 04 2012, 3:24 pm

Apperantly,The Entire Quadrant Was in a Rebuilding Stage After The Withdrawl Of The Dominion Forces. The Cardassians were Undoubtly In The Worst Shape; On The Other Hand, No Doubt This Would Help Accelerate Bajor's Becoming a Full Member Of The Federation.

Jason222

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Report this Jan. 12 2013, 8:05 pm

We kind know Rolulan Star Empire match for UFP least militerize in Star Terk Neminis. The Klingon Empire and Cardassion Union decades to rebuild.


 


 

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Report this Jan. 13 2013, 9:08 pm

Knowledge of Section 31's existence gets out.  Bashir, O'Brien, Sisko, and certainly Odo would see to that.    In the next 50 years or so that wouldn't hurt the Federation, because their only possible rivals are so weakened by the war.  In the longer term, what happens?  A new secret organization?  The Federation is less good at surviving threats?


 

Martol

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Report this Jan. 15 2013, 7:30 pm

So heres my next question? What if the Dominion would have won the war? Best guess for me is the Federation would be the first to surrender after the Federation fell the Romulans would have no need to keep there end of the alliance chances are they might even decide to join the Dominion in helping them defeat the Klingons. The Dominion realizing that the Klingons will never surrender will feel it only has one choice, the complete and utter disctrucion of the klingon race?

Capt William Brewster

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Report this Jan. 16 2013, 5:34 am

Ok Guys and Ladies, we may look at what happened after the Dominion Surrender through Captain Willliam Brewster's eyes perhaps?   Odo has become "President Of The Founders", though both the Federation and the Klingons both suffered alot of losses if we take Commander Shelby's quote right then "Captain Picard, The Federation may have her fleet back up and running in only 2yrs or so."   If we also believe that the Klingons are also using the Federation's methods in their own fleet construction efforts and crew exchanges then both races would quickly rebuild.


Remember the Romulans suffered a plague on an episode of DS9, I agree that Cardassia Prime is a smoldering ruin.   200 Billion People slaughtered with only 50 Billion People left to bury the dead is daunting but much like China might have suffered the Cardassians would survive and thrive much like a bunch of mice don't you think?   I think they would be a much hardier race with alot of knowledge sent to them by the Founders and by Star Fleet.   With Voyager's return shortly before the Founder's Surrender I think The Federation would be in a much more powerful position.


Captain William Brewster

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Report this Jan. 16 2013, 5:47 am

Ok I can look at things both ways then....hummmmm a Federation Non-Conditional Surrender.   The Founderess would still bring Odo into the fold as Federation Ambassador.   The Federation has lost it's fleet but the Founders are actually helping them build it back up again as with the Klingons and Romulans.   You see the Founders are terrified of the Borg.   Their war with the Borg is not going well and the Founders now have to ask the United Federation Of Planets for help.


The USS Voyager did indeed defeat the Borg Queen but slipped into Federation Space through the Transwarp Hub but very secretly.   They handed over a good portion of the Borg Technology to the Section 31 and Sisko and the others allows Section 31 to exist because they don't trust the Founders.   Sisko is promoted to Admiral as is Odo, Worf and Picard along side Riker as Rear-Admiral.


The Cardassians are pretty hotstuff, though they had been beatenup fairly badly when the UFP sneakattacked them and got some of them to turn on their own people.   Gul Dukut did get killed since Sisko outhoodwinked him and Kai Winn died but successfully duped poor Dukut.


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Report this Jan. 16 2013, 5:39 pm

Let's not forget that Romulus is destroyed in 2387. I imagine that would mess the Empire up a little.


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Capt William Brewster

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Report this Jan. 19 2013, 5:26 pm

***Smiles***, No Mitch that is an alternate timeline that Lt. James T Kirk changed, if that was the case then the Vulcan Planet was destroyed also, remember by The Remus mega starship.    Spock failed to destroy that Mega Starship that the Remuses had built; Spock is stuck as an old man in Captain Archer's timeline along with a very young Captain James T. Kirk.


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Report this Jan. 19 2013, 5:33 pm

Quote: Capt William Brewster @ Jan. 19 2013, 5:26 pm

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>***Smiles***, No Mitch that is an alternate timeline that Lt. James T Kirk changed, if that was the case then the Vulcan Planet was destroyed also, remember by The Remus mega starship.    Spock failed to destroy that Mega Starship that the Remuses had built; Spock is stuck as an old man in Captain Archer's timeline along with a very young Captain James T. Kirk.

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The destruction of Romulus takes place in the "prime universe" (Enterprise through Voyager). Spock and Nero go through the black hole and end up in an alternate timeline, where the 2009 movie takes place.


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Report this Jan. 19 2013, 9:31 pm

Quote: Capt William Brewster @ Jan. 19 2013, 5:26 pm

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>***Smiles***, No Mitch that is an alternate timeline that Lt. James T Kirk changed, if that was the case then the Vulcan Planet was destroyed also, remember by The Remus mega starship.    Spock failed to destroy that Mega Starship that the Remuses had built; Spock is stuck as an old man in Captain Archer's timeline along with a very young Captain James T. Kirk.

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sorry, but you arfe incorrect about that.


Old Spock and Nero come from the original ,prime time line.....the one we followed from TOS trew Voyager.Romulos is destroyed in the year 2387, 8 years after Star Trek Nemesis.


Also, the Remuns did not build that ship, it was a Romulan ship.


And Spock wasnt trying to destroy the sghip, he was trying to save the plasnet Romulos from a Super novas...he fasiled asnd got sucked into the past with Nero,.Nero's actions created a new timeline.


 


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Capt William Brewster

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Report this Jan. 24 2013, 1:23 pm

Ok Stovokor2000, why is it at the end of the movie that the Remusians's Mega Starship gets destroyed not only by Spock in both his selves but Nero does get killed and the Remusian's Mega Starship doesn't come out of the other end of the blackhole as Spock does as an old Vulcan, whom is about 400-500 year old or so like Sarek?


 


If Nero is expected to be an future enemy of StarFleet then he should have survived going into the Blackhole, yet we see the Mega Starship of the Remusians completely destroyed?!   Spock does still get stuck in the Captain Archer Timeline but it is mostlikely he can go through another Blackhole Timeline to get to his own proper timeline where he is an older Vulcan in the Next Generation timeline.


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Report this Jan. 24 2013, 3:46 pm

Quote: Capt William Brewster @ Jan. 24 2013, 1:23 pm

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>Ok Stovokor2000, why is it at the end of the movie that the Remusians's Mega Starship gets destroyed not only by Spock in both his selves but Nero does get killed and the Remusian's Mega Starship doesn't come out of the other end of the blackhole as Spock does as an old Vulcan, whom is about 400-500 year old or so like Sarek?

>If Nero is expected to be an future enemy of StarFleet then he should have survived going into the Blackhole, yet we see the Mega Starship of the Remusians completely destroyed?!   Spock does still get stuck in the Captain Archer Timeline but it is mostlikely he can go through another Blackhole Timeline to get to his own proper timeline where he is an older Vulcan in the Next Generation timeline.

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The "Remusians's Mega Starship" didn't survive the second black hole because that one formed right against its hull. The gravity well (plus fire from the Enterprise) tore it apart. The debris might end up somewhere else, but the ship itself is destroyed.


Future Spock (who is 157 as of the movie) could potentially go through another black hole if he wanted to, but the danger such a black hole could pose to other worlds is probably too great for him to risk it. Also, a 23rd century ship might not be able to survive the trip.


And by the way, the Enterprise series is canon is both universes.


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