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Light Speed Propulsion

spicastar

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Report this Sep. 24 2012, 4:15 am

Interstellar space travel is manned or unmanned travel between stars. The concept of interstellar travel in starships is a staple of science fiction. Interstellar travel is conceptually much more difficult than interplanetary travel. Intergalactic travel, or travel between different galaxies, would be even more difficult.


Many scientific papers have been published about related concepts. Given sufficient travel time and engineering work, both unmanned and generational interstellar travel seem possible, though present considerable technological and economic challenges are unlikely to be met in the near future, particularly for manned probes. NASA, ESA and other space agencies have been engaging in research into these topics for several years, and have accumulated a number of theoretical approaches.


I will be giving out a lot more data in time. In the meanwhile you can add as much as you can...




 


 

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Report this Sep. 24 2012, 1:45 pm

I think the idea of soliton drive propulsion would be good.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soliton


Also, if we could build starbridges, connecting portals to ends of a wormhole, that would be even faster!  I think we might even be able to build such a bridge starting at our closest end and repelling the other portal's torus (ring) to wherever we want.


Then, when both portals were activated at the proper (almost the same?) time, the starbridge would be operational--theoretically, at least.


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Report this Sep. 25 2012, 12:02 am

Nice refrence miklamar. Therotically its possible. again to reach that kind of amplitude for a given period of time to transfer matter would be phenomenally high. for eaxample the enrgy quotient would need to be infinte in terms of time and not in terms of joules. so we will still need to work on a few things as prerequisites to get that kind of energy source. Capasitize it and then harness it. Possible maybe after some years. I do have a small idea though will come up with it in time...soon enough. so long live long and prosper..

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Report this Sep. 25 2012, 12:28 pm

In 2007, researchers at JPL/Caltech used Raman lasers, boosted with CaF2 (calcium fluoride) resonators, to produce soliton waves, I think.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raman_laser


http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v93/i24/e243905


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_fluoride


 


According to an analysis of data from the European Cluster system taken in 2002, a soliton wave started about 50,000 kilometers from Earth, and travelled towards the planet at about 8 kilometers per second.


http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13494-first-unchanging-soliton-wave-found-in-space.html


 


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Report this Sep. 25 2012, 12:46 pm

The key with your bridge theory rests within the realm of how a sun collapses into a blackhole.


If the process of when the sun collapse the point of creating a singularity is discovered and is able to be manipulated on a small scale then the bridge would be feasible.


Think of a ring with 24 emitters on it. Each emitter is able to project the gravitational field that exists inside of the collapsing sun the moment if transfers from sun to black hole.


This field is projected toward the end target, the effect would similar to the gate sequence of StarGate. The ship inside is encapsulated in the plume of gravity as it expands outwards. The other bridge functions the same way. As the two fields come together the ship is transferred from Gate A which pushes the ship along to Gate B that then pulls the ship along once the field begins to collapse back on itself from Gate B.


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Report this Sep. 25 2012, 1:19 pm

Awesome, dryson!  Do you think, then, that they might be able to expand the bridge from one end, in the gravity plume you mention, or would they need to established first, so energy from both portals would connect in the middle?


If you start with negative mass at one portal, as I think the Miller-Thorne concept uses, then would you want to establish a positive portal on the other end?  If so, then you might use a tungsten-carbide torus (ring) for the entry portal and an aluminum-iron ring for the exit (opposite) portal.


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Report this Sep. 26 2012, 3:17 am

dryson your theory is amazing. if we are able to emulate the black holes gravimetric phenomenon in the same fashion on small scale we will be able to encapsulate the projectile between 2 emmiter rings. However the blackhole phenomenon has a drawback which we need to work around with that is compression. at the vortex of the plume all matter will be compressed spirally into a singularity. So we will need to have destabilizing rings to create the same vortex with antimater to achieve outwards projection.


dryson and miklamar i think its completely possible. but if a single ring collapses then there is a disaster. This same concept if is sealed inside a ship will eliminate the possibility of making rings at all and will have better chances of success. Just a opinion but i guess for short distances its possible. amazing..liove long and prosper.......


 

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Report this Sep. 26 2012, 12:21 pm

Could a starbridge be formed by creating a standing wave between two oppositely charged portals?


 


http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/waves/u10l4b.cfm


 


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Report this Sep. 27 2012, 2:31 am

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Report this Sep. 28 2012, 11:54 am

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Report this Oct. 02 2012, 12:20 pm

This is old news, but in 2005, some UCLA scientists used a pyroelectric crystal to produce nuclear fusion that they suggested might be used as microthrusters for propulsion through space.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroelectric_fusion


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Report this Oct. 02 2012, 3:59 pm


Awesome, dryson! Do you think, then, that they might be able to expand the bridge from one end, in the gravity plume you mention, or would they need to established first, so energy from both portals would connect in the middle?


If you start with negative mass at one portal, as I think the Miller-Thorne concept uses, then would you want to establish a positive portal on the other end? If so, then you might use a tungsten-carbide torus (ring) for the entry portal and an aluminum-iron ring for the exit (opposite) portal.


 


Energy from both portals would need to be established first and make the connection at precisely the same time so that.


Both fields would be of the same EM charge so that when the fields came together at the focal point which could be anywhere along the direction of travel between each gate's field would create a repulsion effect along the opposite axis of direction towards the opposite gate.


To understand what I mean take to magnets of like EM Field and bring them together. As the two magnets slowly come together they want to repell each other in the opposite direction.


This process would be used to slow the ship as it approaches it's destination otherwise the ship would be torn torn apart with the sudden change in velocity.


The ship itself would project an EM field of the same type as that of the first gate that it uses to travel with. When the two fields meet and begin their repulsion effect the fields of Gate A would slowly be repulsed causing the field to collapse back in on itself in the same manner that a black hole collapses. The field from Gate A would be controlled to emit itself in field pulses necessary to the slow the ship to sublight velocities.


Once the first field from Gate A has slowed the ship to sublight velocities it would instantly collapse leaving the ship to free sail to the interception point of field B from gate B. Once in the intercept zone of field B from gate B gate B's EM field would create a modulating EM field on the ship, which now emitting a similar field so that the ship would aligned with the center of Gate B. Once aligned Gate B would switch its field to absolute attraction with the ships EM field creating an opposite field so that both fields would keep the ship stable while in the tube.


Gate B would then force a field collapse similar to that of how a sun collapses thus pulling the ship to its central point.


Once within 2 light years of Gate B Gate B would begin pulsing a repulsory EM field to bring the ship to a slow and smooth stop.


Along the axis between each gate would posts that would rings that would help keep the EM fields aligned correctly as well as adding additional EM field energy if needed.


 


Good choice on the material. I would hope that when we are able to build such a system that we could develop metals using nanotubing that would act a as ferrous or non-ferrous metal depending upon which type is needed.



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Report this Oct. 02 2012, 4:14 pm


dryson your theory is amazing. if we are able to emulate the black holes gravimetric phenomenon in the same fashion on small scale we will be able to encapsulate the projectile between 2 emmiter rings. However the blackhole phenomenon has a drawback which we need to work around with that is compression. at the vortex of the plume all matter will be compressed spirally into a singularity. So we will need to have destabilizing rings to create the same vortex with antimater to achieve outwards projection.


dryson and miklamar i think its completely possible. but if a single ring collapses then there is a disaster. This same concept if is sealed inside a ship will eliminate the possibility of making rings at all and will have better chances of success. Just a opinion but i guess for short distances its possible. amazing..liove long and prosper.......


This is true.


But the process would not reach the singularity phase. It would be stopped just within a planck moment of becoming a singularity.


I have done some research on black holes and from what I have gathered is the process if created when iron atoms begin to populate a star.


We know that iron is magnetic. When a sun begins to produce iron atoms these iron atoms become EM charged thus causing the sun to increase its mass. When enough iron atoms are present and the sun has an equal amount of positively and negatively charged iron atoms and there is not enough solar mass to keep them apart the iron atoms smash into each other at light speed and possibly FTL speed velocities thus creating the singularity that when enough iron atoms of the same charge remain the solar material that has been collapsed in the middle of iron atoms mass explodes outwards.


The thing about the iron atom is that its the structure of iron when in closed proximity to each other that gives its EM charge.


So controlling the amount of EM Field projection would depend on how the iron atoms are arranged and what type of matter is used in the process that is then collapsed in the center of the iron particle mass.


http://mysite.du.edu/~jcalvert/phys/iron.htm


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Report this Oct. 02 2012, 11:15 pm

Well right dryson but simulating a star like environment and bombarding it with iron atoms is going to be a difficult task. We cannot destroy a star to create singularity. how about we research on some real data and fact sheets and look into all avenues. i mean we can to start with postulate some theory and some algorithms. Later we can put that to test via cirtual simulation. Someday we get enough funding we can build our prototype.

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Report this Oct. 07 2012, 5:29 am

nolimit i have not understood what you have said in this post. Are you refering me to a person named dryson..if so i am not. My name is amit shinde and i am from mumbai india. I have no idea who dryson is.

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