Bikeman470 GROUP: Members POSTS: 99 |
Report this
Sep. 09 2012, 3:57 am
Also when the Genisis device blew up it created the planet seemingly out of nothing. Then there's another sun. Where did that sun come from?
|
Caesar753 GROUP: Members POSTS: 578 |
Report this
Sep. 09 2012, 7:42 pm
Perhaps it was an artificial light source, like a giant UV lamp.
|
OneDamnMinuteAdmiral GROUP: Members POSTS: 1367 |
Report this
Sep. 09 2012, 8:00 pm
Yeah I say artificial light source too, they needed some kind if UV rays to make the plants grow.
As for the planet forming out of nothing, well it did use the nebula gases to make Genesis. When I was younger and even now I always though that was why the planet failed in STIII. I never bought into the proto-matter story considering the cave worked.
As for the other sun I guess it was just the sun for the Regula, or whatever it was called, system.
Are you sure it isn't time for a colorful metaphor?
|
Beershark GROUP: Members POSTS: 2582 |
Report this
Sep. 10 2012, 12:55 am
I always assumed it was just part of the genisis effect, I'll admitt that an artificial source installed by starfleet engineers does make better sense.
CORPORATIONS AREN'T PEOPLE! Soylent Green is people.
|
JK1701 GROUP: Members POSTS: 264 |
Report this
Sep. 10 2012, 8:14 am
I kind of questioned the Sun that formed with the Genesis Planet, but as for the planet itself, it formed from the particles that made up the ship and the dust and gases that formed the nebula. But probably most of it was formed from Khan's ego. There was enough of that to make an entire planet. 
Ahh, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb which tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It's very cold....in space.
|
CO_Fowler GROUP: Members POSTS: 5488 |
Report this
Sep. 10 2012, 11:50 am
For the light in the cave, I also thought it was most likely an artificail source. I viewed the cave as where they did some of their experimenting with the Genisis 'mixture' (for want of a better word)
As for the planet, the gases, what was left of the Reliant and those bodies on her, and other space debris could have been used for the planet, but I also wondered about that new planets sun. Could it have been a star hidden by the nebula? Was it also 'created' by Genisis? After the planet formed, was it 'pulled' into an orbit by a sun nearby? Lots of questions for that.
R.I.P. My sweet Casey Bug. Mommy will see you again one day :`o( 18DEC01-24SEP11 /
"Don't try to win over the haters. You're not the jackass whisperer."~Scott Stratten /It's a lot like nuts and bolts-if the rider's nuts, the horse bolts! ~Nicholas Evans /IDIC-Infinite Diversity Infinite Combination/Sgt Esterhaus: Hey, let's be careful out there!/4000/ To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone
|
WarpGirl9 GROUP: Members POSTS: 69 |
Report this
Sep. 10 2012, 2:33 pm
am I just not remembering correctly? I always thought the Genesis planet was already there, the Genesis effect just terraformed it...
Anything I can think of to put here would most likely get me banned
|
JK1701 GROUP: Members POSTS: 264 |
Report this
Sep. 10 2012, 2:39 pm
No, Warpgirl9, at the end of Wrath Of Khan there was only The Mutara Nebula until Khan set off the Genesis Device, which then created the planet from the particles it could absorb from the nebula. There wasn't a planet there at all.
Ahh, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb which tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It's very cold....in space.
|
Mitchz95 GROUP: Members POSTS: 1782 |
Report this
Sep. 10 2012, 3:37 pm
I think Warpgirl was referring to Regula. Yes, there was a planet in the area, but the Genesis detonation created a whole new planet nearby.
"The future is in the hands of those who explore... And from all the beauty they discover while crossing perpetually receding frontiers, they develop for nature and for humankind an infinite love." - Jacques Yves Cousteau
|
Christopher.D.Norton.writ er.activist GROUP: Members POSTS: 152 |
Report this
Sep. 10 2012, 5:42 pm
No JK1701 there were two genesis planets, the one with the caves one from the nebula; in your eagerness to make yourself feel better by putting down a girl you forgot the narrow-mindedness of your not seeing that both could be correct is far worse than what you are accusing her of; and technically there was actually a 3rd Genesis planet, the cyber one in the demo; one is far wiser to see how everything can be true than to claim that one has the only possible correct interpretation of truth, and even wiser than that to say the words "I know nothing" or as Data said "the most fundamental rule of science is so say 'I do not know'", she did both of the good ones and you neither, you choose the worse choice of the three philosophies listed here, so she is far better than you.
Live long and prosper because it is a good day to die
|
JK1701 GROUP: Members POSTS: 264 |
Report this
Sep. 11 2012, 9:04 am
I was neither attacking anyone nor was I trying t oput down a girl, as you put it. I was simply trying to correct someone who was incorrect. There were not two Genesis planets. There was one planet that was referred to by that name. Regula One was the planetoid that housed the Genesis cave where they did the experiments and the one in the cyber demo was just that: a cyber creation. We were discussing the planet created by the Genesis device after Khan detonated it. If you were not so busy trying to find fault and see offense where there is none, mr. "activist", you wouldn't have misinterpreted my answer and tried to make yourself look better. Perhaps if you spent less time hunting racists and more time watching Star Trek, you could make these distinctions yourself. But you do neither, therefore I am far better than you.
Ahh, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb which tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It's very cold....in space.
|
WarpGirl9 GROUP: Members POSTS: 69 |
Report this
Sep. 14 2012, 3:19 pm
I... I am trying so hard to not reach through this screen and choke the shit out of someone...
Ok, I don't feel that JK was attacking me. It didn't even sound remotely hostile. He was giving me information that... I requested.
Christopher... I sincerely hope that I only have to say this once to you... do not... EVER... use me as an excuse to jump on someone else.
I'm a big girl and if, in the event I was being attacked, I'm more than capable of handling it myself.
Anything I can think of to put here would most likely get me banned
|
JK1701 GROUP: Members POSTS: 264 |
Report this
Sep. 17 2012, 6:34 am
Quote: WarpGirl9 @ Sep. 14 2012, 3:19 pm | >
>I... I am trying so hard to not reach through this screen and choke the shit out of someone...
>Ok, I don't feel that JK was attacking me. It didn't even sound remotely hostile. He was giving me information that... I requested.
>Christopher... I sincerely hope that I only have to say this once to you... do not... EVER... use me as an excuse to jump on someone else.
>I'm a big girl and if, in the event I was being attacked, I'm more than capable of handling it myself.
> |
I'm not in the habit of attacking people who haven't attacked me unless they are being an idiot and/or disrupting the goings on of this site. You were doing neither, WarpGirl9. Thank you for not taking offense when someone answers your question like someone seems to think you should have. 
Ahh, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb which tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It's very cold....in space.
|
rtb2k6 GROUP: Members POSTS: 72 |
Report this
Sep. 19 2012, 4:53 pm
Well said JK1701 i applaud you.
|
Beersnark GROUP: Members POSTS: 509 |
Report this
Sep. 19 2012, 6:35 pm
I wish I were a glow worm
'cause glow worms are never glum
How can you be grouchy
when the sun shines out your bum
"These people are natural born idiots."-Neelix
|