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cochrane2063

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Report this Jul. 20 2012, 4:03 pm

Watching TNG-Q Who, Yesterday's Enterprise, and Time's Arrow make me curious about a few things.


1. What exactly is the relationship between the Q and the El-Aurians?


2. Why did the Borg destroy the El-Aurians instead of assimilating them? (the real-world reason is probably that the Borg had not been fully worked out yet as a species/collective)


3. How can El-Aurians sense changes in the timeline? How is that a natural ability for them if it certainly can't have any practical purpose in a normal animal?


4. What are the odds that Guinan ends up in San Fransisco around the same time Data is there? Could this have anything to do with the time portal, and the El-Aurian ability to sense timeline changes?


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miklamar

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Report this Jul. 23 2012, 12:16 pm

I think the Borg were unable to assimilate them, at least easily enough to make it worthwhile.  Perhaps it was a combination of their special skills and their age.


However, I don't know much about the El-Aurians.  Perhaps their sense of cosmic balance alerted them to imbalances.  Maybe it is related to magnetism in the brain.


I don't think Guinan planned to be in San Francisco when the crew arrived.  That was the first time she had met them, wasn't it?  I think she was proceeding forward in her timeline, while the Enterprise crew were traveling back in time from their perspective.


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Pooneil

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Report this Jul. 23 2012, 3:46 pm

Aren't "assimilate" and "destroy" pretty much the same thing? You assimilate a species, you've more or less destroyed them. They only exist now as drones and memories. Maybe all the humanoid drones we've seen are actually assimilated El-Aurians.


Guinan's extra-temporal sense has been explained by the writers as a result of a part of her existing in the Nexus. None of the other El-Aurians (e.g. Dr Soren) had any special abilities besides the "listening" thing. 

stovokor2000-A

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Report this Jul. 23 2012, 9:55 pm

Quote: cochrane2063 @ Jul. 20 2012, 4:03 pm

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>Watching TNG-Q Who, Yesterday's Enterprise, and Time's Arrow make me curious about a few things.

>1. What exactly is the relationship between the Q and the El-Aurians?

>2. Why did the Borg destroy the El-Aurians instead of assimilating them? (the real-world reason is probably that the Borg had not been fully worked out yet as a species/collective)

>3. How can El-Aurians sense changes in the timeline? How is that a natural ability for them if it certainly can't have any practical purpose in a normal animal?

>4. What are the odds that Guinan ends up in San Fransisco around the same time Data is there? Could this have anything to do with the time portal, and the El-Aurian ability to sense timeline changes?

>


1.whos says theres any reationship between the 2 races?We only know that a Q had an issue with Guian.


2. they destroed by assimulating.


3. who says El-Aurians sense changes in the timeline? We only know that Guian could.


4. I say the odd are 100%, since that is what happened.And Guian spoke of her father as if she was still very young, like a teenager.


So its more likely that she is just very old.


 


 


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miklamar

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Report this Jul. 26 2012, 9:11 am

Quote: Pooneil @ Jul. 23 2012, 3:46 pm

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>Aren't "assimilate" and "destroy" pretty much the same thing? You assimilate a species, you've more or less destroyed them. They only exist now as drones and memories. Maybe all the humanoid drones we've seen are actually assimilated El-Aurians.

>Guinan's extra-temporal sense has been explained by the writers as a result of a part of her existing in the Nexus. None of the other El-Aurians (e.g. Dr Soren) had any special abilities besides the "listening" thing. 

>


Assimilate means to incorporate a person into the Borg collective, which simply changes them.  They are not physically destroyed, just changed the Borg way.


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Pooneil

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Report this Jul. 26 2012, 10:02 am

Quote: miklamar @ Jul. 26 2012, 9:11 am

Quote: Pooneil @ Jul. 23 2012, 3:46 pm

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>Aren't "assimilate" and "destroy" pretty much the same thing? You assimilate a species, you've more or less destroyed them. They only exist now as drones and memories. Maybe all the humanoid drones we've seen are actually assimilated El-Aurians.

>Guinan's extra-temporal sense has been explained by the writers as a result of a part of her existing in the Nexus. None of the other El-Aurians (e.g. Dr Soren) had any special abilities besides the "listening" thing. 

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Assimilate means to incorporate a person into the Borg collective, which simply changes them.  They are not physically destroyed, just changed the Borg way.


Right. By simply changing them "the Borg way", you've destroyed them as individuals and as a culture. I don't think Guinan or any other El-Aurian would bother to make a semantic distinction between "destroy" and "assimilate". As far as they're concerned, their people have been wiped out.

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Report this Jul. 26 2012, 2:59 pm

i think so.

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