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The Borg: Massive Invasion With Only One Ship.

JK1701

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Report this Jul. 20 2012, 9:33 am

The Borg were certainly some of Star Trek's most dangerous villains. Their single-mindedness of purpose coupled with their unrelenting drive for conquest, not to mention the abilities of their vessels and themselves to adapt and repair damage, made them a force to be reckoned with.


Their tactical decisions, however, left much to be desired. The Best Of Both Worlds. Star Trek: First Contact. The Borg launched what was described as an invasion on Earth, "and this time there may be no stopping them". And, I grant you, if it wasn't for Picard both times, there is little doubt Earth would have been assimilated and the Federation destroyed. But, why only one cube both times?


Ok, so in the episode Q Who?, we were introduced to the Borg. And, had it not been for Q, our intrepid Enterprise-ites would have been utterly destroyed. This to me explains why the first invasion in BOBW was only one cube. They saw us as weak and easily conquered, and of course, resistance is futile, so I can believe they saw themselves unable to be defeated.


Surprise, Borg scum!


Picard and the Enterprise do in fact defeat them. I'm sure this came as an unbelievable blow to the Borg Queen. So there are a few other episodes where we see the Borg dealt with and the crew of the Enterprise always come out on top. There seems to be no way the Borg can succeed in their takeover bid for the Federation. What to do, what to do? Let's try another invasion!


But let's just send one cube again.


Huh?


After all the times they had been defeated, why was this not an all out, 16 cube invasion force that would completely obliterate the Federation. I grant you that it appeared the "travel back in time and change history" plan was already in place, but still! One cube? This was the part of the Borg I always found so puzzling and why, although I do like the Borg as Star Trek baddies, I really felt the show writers over-hyped and under-utilized the ferocity and dangerousness of them.


Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?


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randy kerr

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Report this Jul. 20 2012, 11:06 am

the borg got there butts kicked all right.

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Report this Jul. 20 2012, 11:50 am

I've thought of that too, especially since one Cube could not do the job. It took most of the fleet to handle one. They could not have stopped a fleet of cubes.

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Report this Jul. 22 2012, 6:08 pm

Kind like humans had been luckly first time by fact Date able put the Borg sleep. So Borg not count Pircard find there weakspot which was mistake on there part. However since first Cube nearly did the job if not for Borg ship expoding because put to sleep secound time around UFP no way doing that they though easily victory.   Did not count Pircard find solf spot and blow borg cube sky high. 


It possible reason they did try third time by send many borg cubes is because Pircad know weakness that good that he could allow UFP fight something 30 Borg Cubes. 

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Report this Jul. 24 2012, 12:56 pm

In the Destiny series of books by David Mack, the Borg do launch a massive invasion of the Federation.


Perhaps they were preoccupied during the Dominion War, or couldn't get there in time, but that would have been an ideal time to have invaded--in the chaos of the war or in its weakened aftermath.


Var Miklama--Zakdorn, engineer. "A sound mind in a FULL body!" "Time, like latinum, is a limited quantity in the galaxy."

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Report this Jul. 24 2012, 1:06 pm

I read those books, and they were very good. It was very nice to see the Borg actually out in force for a change, and there was nothing the Federation could do. But, they also altered the Borg in the books and made them less passive and more aggressive, which helped lead up to the massive invasion. I was wondering how many other people had read those books. lol


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Report this Jul. 24 2012, 3:17 pm

Quote: miklamar @ Jul. 24 2012, 12:56 pm

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>In the Destiny series of books by David Mack, the Borg do launch a massive invasion of the Federation.

>Perhaps they were preoccupied during the Dominion War, or couldn't get there in time, but that would have been an ideal time to have invaded--in the chaos of the war or in its weakened aftermath.

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It be the worst possible time for Borg to attack UFP more starships location near by Earth solar system since fleet near by major star system near battle fornt. Something like 3 fleets worth ships but if they disable the UFP able fight the Dominion and all major power Alpha quadron surriender to the Dominion. Dominion easily defeat the Borg fight they did care about loses either.


Know do not normal read none cannon book star terk. Accord to Star Terk Endgame sound Janway fought borgs many times. Suggestion was war going between UFP and the Borg.

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Report this Jul. 24 2012, 5:19 pm

In the old days the Borg were unstoppable, but since Voyager, we have learned all kinds of neat tricks to beating the Borg, knowing what we know of them now, I think an all out invasion is about the only way the Borg could beat the Federation now.


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Jason222

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Report this Jul. 25 2012, 6:16 pm

They likley try it some time during Star Terk voyager in alternative timeline in End Games from what we hear Janway had face borg many more times.

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Report this Jul. 25 2012, 8:48 pm

Beating the Borg is easy. Just have them try to solve a logic problem that has no clear answer, like: "What is love?" Their brain circuits will fry trying to answer that one.

miklamar

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Report this Jul. 26 2012, 9:03 am

They could also bombard the Borg with sharp-edged orgami sculptures and give them lots of paper cuts!  That would drive them crazy!


Var Miklama--Zakdorn, engineer. "A sound mind in a FULL body!" "Time, like latinum, is a limited quantity in the galaxy."

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Report this Aug. 04 2012, 12:53 pm

its possible that the single cubes were the advance force and that  on the old timeline they were due to arrive enmasse (look at how long it took jane way to get home)


another possible explanation is that with their assimilation tactics, they were planning to simply create more cubes as they went.

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Report this Aug. 05 2012, 5:22 am

The Borg almost pull off the invasion with only one cube.  That method has probably worked for them in the past so they felt no need to change it, especially if they are advance units as dirkgently suggests.  Also, the UFP is undoubtedly only one of many concerns the Borg have  to deal with it, so not all of their resources will be committed to the assimilation of Federation space.


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