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JK1701

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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 11:53 am

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Jul. 09 2012, 10:31 am

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 10:05 am

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>And maybe it's not a mistake, but it's something I've never really gotten. In the episode The City On The Edge Of Forever, somehow Spock builds a circuit from one side of his tricorder around a room and back to the other side of the tricorder in order to retrieve information. A pnemonic memory circuit, I believe it was called. But, before doing that he made a comment about needing to tie into the ships computers to retrieve the information. It's my understanding that the tricorder transmitted the information back to the Enterprise and, in order to see it on his screen, he needed to be able to tie back in to the ships computers. How did building that enormous circuit around the room help him to retrieve the information?

Your forgetting one of the key fuctions of the tricorder........to RECORD data/information.

Which Spock started doing just before McCoy jumped trew the time portal.

Spock built that circuit so he could play back the recored info on the tricorder.


No, I get that. What I'm saying is how did that help him retrieve that data? It didn't tie him into the ships computer, because it did not exist at that point, and why did he need to build this complicated thing just to get the tricorder to replay information? It wasn't damaged in any way that they stated, so why couldn't it just play back what they needed? I mean, beyond the need to have some sort of story to make the episode an hour long. lol


Ahh, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb which tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It's very cold....in space.

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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 12:12 pm

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 11:53 am

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Jul. 09 2012, 10:31 am

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 10:05 am

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>And maybe it's not a mistake, but it's something I've never really gotten. In the episode The City On The Edge Of Forever, somehow Spock builds a circuit from one side of his tricorder around a room and back to the other side of the tricorder in order to retrieve information. A pnemonic memory circuit, I believe it was called. But, before doing that he made a comment about needing to tie into the ships computers to retrieve the information. It's my understanding that the tricorder transmitted the information back to the Enterprise and, in order to see it on his screen, he needed to be able to tie back in to the ships computers. How did building that enormous circuit around the room help him to retrieve the information?

Your forgetting one of the key fuctions of the tricorder........to RECORD data/information.

Which Spock started doing just before McCoy jumped trew the time portal.

Spock built that circuit so he could play back the recored info on the tricorder.

No, I get that. What I'm saying is how did that help him retrieve that data? It didn't tie him into the ships computer, because it did not exist at that point, and why did he need to build this complicated thing just to get the tricorder to replay information? It wasn't damaged in any way that they stated, so why couldn't it just play back what they needed? I mean, beyond the need to have some sort of story to make the episode an hour long. lol


why they needed anything to play back info always seemed stupid to me.


But for what ever reason, he needed part of the ships systems, or some facsimile to read the recorded data.


Since the ship and her systems werent avalible, Spock built a primitive version of the ships trycorder readers.


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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 12:37 pm

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Jul. 09 2012, 12:12 pm

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 11:53 am

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Jul. 09 2012, 10:31 am

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 10:05 am

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>And maybe it's not a mistake, but it's something I've never really gotten. In the episode The City On The Edge Of Forever, somehow Spock builds a circuit from one side of his tricorder around a room and back to the other side of the tricorder in order to retrieve information. A pnemonic memory circuit, I believe it was called. But, before doing that he made a comment about needing to tie into the ships computers to retrieve the information. It's my understanding that the tricorder transmitted the information back to the Enterprise and, in order to see it on his screen, he needed to be able to tie back in to the ships computers. How did building that enormous circuit around the room help him to retrieve the information?

Your forgetting one of the key fuctions of the tricorder........to RECORD data/information.

Which Spock started doing just before McCoy jumped trew the time portal.

Spock built that circuit so he could play back the recored info on the tricorder.

No, I get that. What I'm saying is how did that help him retrieve that data? It didn't tie him into the ships computer, because it did not exist at that point, and why did he need to build this complicated thing just to get the tricorder to replay information? It wasn't damaged in any way that they stated, so why couldn't it just play back what they needed? I mean, beyond the need to have some sort of story to make the episode an hour long. lol

why they needed anything to play back info always seemed stupid to me.

But for what ever reason, he needed part of the ships systems, or some facsimile to read the recorded data.

Since the ship and her systems werent avalible, Spock built a primitive version of the ships trycorder readers.


Yeah, it's the "whatever reason" that always gets me. I mean, that's one of my favorite episodes, but every time I watch it I can't help but think that they could have done that better. I mean, if nothing else, they could have had the time jump mess up some circuits in the tricorder or something. Anything that would have made it make sense. To me it just doesn't, which is why I kind of consider it a mistake.


Ahh, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb which tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It's very cold....in space.

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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 12:42 pm

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 12:37 pm

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Jul. 09 2012, 12:12 pm

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 11:53 am

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Jul. 09 2012, 10:31 am

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 10:05 am

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>And maybe it's not a mistake, but it's something I've never really gotten. In the episode The City On The Edge Of Forever, somehow Spock builds a circuit from one side of his tricorder around a room and back to the other side of the tricorder in order to retrieve information. A pnemonic memory circuit, I believe it was called. But, before doing that he made a comment about needing to tie into the ships computers to retrieve the information. It's my understanding that the tricorder transmitted the information back to the Enterprise and, in order to see it on his screen, he needed to be able to tie back in to the ships computers. How did building that enormous circuit around the room help him to retrieve the information?

Your forgetting one of the key fuctions of the tricorder........to RECORD data/information.

Which Spock started doing just before McCoy jumped trew the time portal.

Spock built that circuit so he could play back the recored info on the tricorder.

No, I get that. What I'm saying is how did that help him retrieve that data? It didn't tie him into the ships computer, because it did not exist at that point, and why did he need to build this complicated thing just to get the tricorder to replay information? It wasn't damaged in any way that they stated, so why couldn't it just play back what they needed? I mean, beyond the need to have some sort of story to make the episode an hour long. lol

why they needed anything to play back info always seemed stupid to me.

But for what ever reason, he needed part of the ships systems, or some facsimile to read the recorded data.

Since the ship and her systems werent avalible, Spock built a primitive version of the ships trycorder readers.

Yeah, it's the "whatever reason" that always gets me. I mean, that's one of my favorite episodes, but every time I watch it I can't help but think that they could have done that better. I mean, if nothing else, they could have had the time jump mess up some circuits in the tricorder or something. Anything that would have made it make sense. To me it just doesn't, which is why I kind of consider it a mistake.

well I think they did cover it a bit.


the speed that the gurdian was playing back history.The tricorer was able to record at those speeds, but maybe it couldnt play them back any slower thern how it was recorded.


And for Spock to find the info he was looking for he would have needed a slower play back.


 


 


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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 12:49 pm

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Jul. 09 2012, 12:42 pm

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 12:37 pm

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Jul. 09 2012, 12:12 pm

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 11:53 am

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ Jul. 09 2012, 10:31 am

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 10:05 am

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>And maybe it's not a mistake, but it's something I've never really gotten. In the episode The City On The Edge Of Forever, somehow Spock builds a circuit from one side of his tricorder around a room and back to the other side of the tricorder in order to retrieve information. A pnemonic memory circuit, I believe it was called. But, before doing that he made a comment about needing to tie into the ships computers to retrieve the information. It's my understanding that the tricorder transmitted the information back to the Enterprise and, in order to see it on his screen, he needed to be able to tie back in to the ships computers. How did building that enormous circuit around the room help him to retrieve the information?

Your forgetting one of the key fuctions of the tricorder........to RECORD data/information.

Which Spock started doing just before McCoy jumped trew the time portal.

Spock built that circuit so he could play back the recored info on the tricorder.

No, I get that. What I'm saying is how did that help him retrieve that data? It didn't tie him into the ships computer, because it did not exist at that point, and why did he need to build this complicated thing just to get the tricorder to replay information? It wasn't damaged in any way that they stated, so why couldn't it just play back what they needed? I mean, beyond the need to have some sort of story to make the episode an hour long. lol

why they needed anything to play back info always seemed stupid to me.

But for what ever reason, he needed part of the ships systems, or some facsimile to read the recorded data.

Since the ship and her systems werent avalible, Spock built a primitive version of the ships trycorder readers.

Yeah, it's the "whatever reason" that always gets me. I mean, that's one of my favorite episodes, but every time I watch it I can't help but think that they could have done that better. I mean, if nothing else, they could have had the time jump mess up some circuits in the tricorder or something. Anything that would have made it make sense. To me it just doesn't, which is why I kind of consider it a mistake.

well I think they did cover it a bit.

the speed that the gurdian was playing back history.The tricorer was able to record at those speeds, but maybe it couldnt play them back any slower thern how it was recorded.

And for Spock to find the info he was looking for he would have needed a slower play back.

 

 


That is a good thought....


Ahh, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb which tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It's very cold....in space.

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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 1:09 pm

Quote: JK1701 @ Jul. 09 2012, 12:49 pm

>That is a good thought....

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Report this Jul. 12 2012, 1:23 pm

In Who Mourn's for Adonais, Spock refers to Apollo by his actual name from the Enterprise, even though Kirk and the rest of the landing party have not actually told Spock or anyone aboard the ship what his actual name is because communications are not functioning. 

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Report this Jul. 12 2012, 2:24 pm

In an episode, I can't remember the name, spock says "yep" right before saying somthing logical. If you were'nt looking for it you would miss it. It was very funny. I'm not sure if that counts as a mistake, but it did seem odd.


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Report this Jul. 15 2012, 11:53 am

Quote: J.T.Kirk @ Jun. 20 2012, 9:38 am

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>Listen carefully afer McCoy sees the large rabbit & little blonde girl in Shore Leave. He clearly says "it's like something out of 'Addless' in Wonderland".  Not a big deal really ... but something that could easily been remedied with another take. De Kelley did get a little tongue twisted at times. Some of those fun, funky little errors make the series all that more endearing as the years pass by.

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I think DeForrest Kelley was going to say `Adam and Eve' then corrected himself.

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