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One thing GOOD about 2009 movie

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Report this Jun. 22 2012, 7:40 pm

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ Jun. 17 2012, 4:40 pm

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>Sorry there is nothing good about Abrams Trek, it's like watching a LONG Saturday Night Live Sketch.

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I couldn't agree less with you, I can't stand Saturday Night Live for the most part, yet I really like the new Star Trek movie.


Some good parts would be the whole opening sequence, the bar fight, kobiyashi maru, McCoy, Pike, Kirk antagonizing Spock and maybe some others. 


Some bad. Chekov, somewhat of Scotty, death of Spock's mother and Vulcan.


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Report this Jun. 24 2012, 10:58 am

Ahh... I sorta liked it, but it didnt "feel" like star trek. Dunno why. It felt more like I was watching a random sci-fi space drama... but I loved the fact that Leonard Nimoy was there. I also really loved the newness of it. I wish we could have done a Voyager movie instead, but I don't have anything overtly negative to say. It just wasn't up there too high on my favorite trek adventures... *shrug*...

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Report this Jun. 24 2012, 7:22 pm

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Ahh... I sorta liked it, but it didnt "feel" like star trek. Dunno why. It felt more like I was watching a random sci-fi space drama...


thats what i tell people... it was a good sci-fi film (reminded me of star wars at times) but it wasn't star trek. Abrams hasn't ruined anything though he hasn't made any improvement to the franchise except to draw in a new audience. I just hope the next 2 films will return that sense of hope and inspiration so noted in the other incarnations.

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Report this Jun. 25 2012, 3:28 am

Quote: Cpt. Sameway @ Jun. 24 2012, 10:58 am

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>Ahh... I sorta liked it, but it didnt "feel" like star trek. Dunno why. It felt more like I was watching a random sci-fi space drama... but I loved the fact that Leonard Nimoy was there. I also really loved the newness of it. I wish we could have done a Voyager movie instead, but I don't have anything overtly negative to say. It just wasn't up there too high on my favorite trek adventures... *shrug*...

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Now this is where I disagree...Abrams Star Trek felt more like the original series then the original series movies felt. In that respect he hit the nail on the head and was spot on with characters and dialogue.
Being a fan since nearly the beginning, in my view I can assure you this is completely true.
The only thing's that changed were the actors (who all proved to be exceptional, but a couple had a few new quirks which in the end added new insight in to them) and the sets.
Oddly TNG films despite being fresh off the TV circuit didn't capture the characters heart and soul. Mainly because most of them were hollow, mono dramatic interchangeable characters any way. The writers couldn't even get their own canon right!
 
Creating a new time line and a new beginning in MHO was a brilliant and bold move that freed them up to tell any story they want with out having to over right previous history.
The special effects were wonderful, but yet they weren't there to over power the characters, just helped tell the story and move things along...which is what special effects should do.
 
Was it big, bold and brassy..YES!
And needed to be fast paced and engaging to all. (sorry, non fans included)
It was meant to be a major motion picture not an expanded two hour episode with commercial breaks.
 
And thank God little Techno babble...why on earth did Star Trek become synonymous with pointless Techno babble is beyond me. I am sure this is a Nerd Fan inspiration that the later series embraced in favor of actual character development.

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Report this Jun. 25 2012, 7:36 pm

Loved a lot of the elements of humor.


 


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Report this Jul. 08 2012, 7:53 pm

I'm one of the few that liked Star Trek 09...but then I'm one of the few that liked Wesley Crusher too.

Fav lines:

Spock: Excuse me Minister...what disadvantage would that be?
Minister: Your Human mother...
Spock: (After completely shutting them down) Live long and...prosper.


McCoy: You got numb toung? I can fix that!"
Kirk: (After being hit with a hyperspray for the 6th billionth time) STHHOP THHAT!

Kirk: So I'm suppose to emotionally compromise you...guys. How over your dead bodies?
Spock Prime: Preferably not.

I could go on but I won't. I just really enjoyed the characters...they were so...real. I loved McCoy...and I really enjoyed Chris Pine's Kirk. He really made that character his own.
Jj

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Report this Jul. 08 2012, 8:30 pm

Quote: JDax82 @ Jul. 08 2012, 7:53 pm

>I'm one of the few that liked Star Trek 09...but then I'm one of the few that liked Wesley Crusher too. Fav lines: Spock: Excuse me Minister...what disadvantage would that be? Minister: Your Human mother... Spock: (After completely shutting them down) Live long and...prosper. McCoy: You got numb toung? I can fix that!" Kirk: (After being hit with a hyperspray for the 6th billionth time) STHHOP THHAT! Kirk: So I'm suppose to emotionally compromise you...guys. How over your dead bodies? Spock Prime: Preferably not. I could go on but I won't. I just really enjoyed the characters...they were so...real. I loved McCoy...and I really enjoyed Chris Pine's Kirk. He really made that character his own. Jj


 


lots of people likes it


 


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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 2:42 am

From what I've been reading around here I felt like I was in the mInority.

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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 7:36 am

the haters are just louder.  The movies brought in a lot of new fans actually


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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 12:45 pm

As I've said in other threads, I'm old enough (barely) to remember first run episodes of TOS.  What I loved about this movie was that it brought back the old characters I grew up with but gave them the freedom to explore new story lines.


The casting was excellent, I think each actor was spot on in their roles.  The only digression was Kirk.  But what do we know about a young Kirk? We know he was brash and headstrong almost supernaturally resourceful... well, I'd say they nailed that character too.


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Report this Jul. 09 2012, 9:47 pm

Nimoy was in it.

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Report this Jul. 10 2012, 9:25 am

Quote: WarpGirl9 @ Jul. 09 2012, 12:45 pm

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>As I've said in other threads, I'm old enough (barely) to remember first run episodes of TOS.  What I loved about this movie was that it brought back the old characters I grew up with but gave them the freedom to explore new story lines.

>The casting was excellent, I think each actor was spot on in their roles.  The only digression was Kirk.  But what do we know about a young Kirk? We know he was brash and headstrong almost supernaturally resourceful... well, I'd say they nailed that character too.

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I do too.  And more importantly they captured the sense of fun tos had that I think the later series were lacking


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Report this Jul. 10 2012, 1:43 pm

I'm glad to find some other people that liked the last movie. I was kind of feeling in the minority as well. How much did I like it? It is the only movie that I have ever gone to watch the matinee in the afternoon, left, and then turned around, went back and sat through again at the evening show. I felt like the actors nailed their characters (with the exception of Chekov being almost impossible to understand), the action was great, the story was good (even though I did have a problem with the Spock/Uhura relationship, as that had absolutely no basis in the TV series, and the fact that George Kirk was a bridge officer, when I seem to remember him being a security officer or something like that), and I even thought the new design of the Enterprise was unbelievably beautiful. I really hope they don't redo Khan in the new movie, as I keep hearing rumors to that end, but I'm really looking forward to more movies from Abrams and company. I applaude what they've done.


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Report this Jul. 10 2012, 9:39 pm

I actually had no problem with the Spock/Uhura relationship...but I don't know the characters from TOS...I know them from books and then the movies. In the books (I know it's not cannon), Spock and Uhura had a mutual deep respect for each other and some common intrests (music for one thing)...given the right conditions I could see it developing into something more.
Also Spock is in a different place than Spock Prime was at that time in his life. He will react differently then Spock Prime did.
Just my .02

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Report this Jul. 15 2012, 9:15 am

I think there is some basis for it in tos.  Uhura definitly is flirtatious with Spock in a couple episodes. 


But I think the purpose of the relationship is to show how emotionally compromised Spock is.  He would never have entered a relationship with a jr officer like that if he wasn't grief stricken.


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