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So.... after Walker lowers unemployment, implements small cuts to some government spending (although I'd prefer a lot more) and massively decreases debt and wipes out their deficit (while cutting taxes), the socialists and local and national unions didn't like the pro-freedom/capitalism ideas (because they work) that Walker implemented and wanted to throw him out.

Is the birthplace of progressivism starting to see logic?

Just think if Obama would implement the same policies....

Unemployment was already going down when he assumed office. Since then, that trend has slowed down. No surprise, as his spending cuts include cutting jobs in education and, to a lesser degree, other public services. Typical Republican, slash education, yet do little to nothing about welfare abuse. No wonder Wisconsonites wanted him recalled. And cutting taxes to the rich? Yeah, that's always been a great plan... if you ignore the fact that it doesn't do any good at all.

So, when it comes down to it, the proper title for this topic should be "Wisconsin: Everyone's Screwed."

And a big thank you to the Unions for costing the taxpayers all that money to do another election just because they're sore losers.

Though on the bright side, this will probably knock Wisconsin into the red column of states come November. Obama couldn't be bothered to campaign there, why should the Wisconsin democrats help him out in a few months?

And the tens of millions spent on each side of the recall (pretty much equal overall at first, then people supporting Walker outspent the unions) and time away from actual governing (vs. union/socialist desired thuggery)  Anything they can do to sidetrack someone who has the conviction to save the state instead of help destroy it.

I can't agree with everything that Walker has done, but at least he's trying to turn the state around from being destroyed.

Oh, look, more conservative hypocrisy. When the people hold a recall election against a liberal, conservatives call it "a step in the right direction." But when a recall election is held against a conservative, it suddenly becomes "a waste of time and money."

For the record I've never signed a recall petition. You don't do recalls over policy. That's just petty. But thank you for putting words in my mouth.

Since you clearly enjoy speaking for others, would you care to make any more comments on my behalf?

So you didn't just complain about the money spent? You didn't just say "costing the taxpayers all that money to do another election?"

Before you accuse someone of putting words in your mouth, make sure you didn't actually say those words, first.

Not to mention that BamBam made the same complaint...

There is such a thing called context with the whole of the statement.

Of course I thought this recall was ridiculous and a waste of time and money. I would have had the same opinion if it was a Democratic governor being recalled just because 40% of the electorate doesn't like the way he's governing.

A recall should be reserved for ethical grounds, not just because you don't like his policy.

But if you like focusing on one clip of the statement, go ahead. You probably think Mitt Romney likes firing people for fun too.

First you talk about context, then you agree with what I said.

But here's the thing... You only assumed that I was talking specifically about you, rather than making a general statement. Next time, verify first.

who knows.

Well, there is no doubt that the left failed in its most ambitious goal, to remove Walker from office. However, leave it to the so-called liberal press to downplay and ignore the real losses involved for Walker:

1) The net result of two rounds of recal electuions is that the Republicans no longer control the Senate.

2) Walker is now putting on his play nice face and promising to consult with a wide variety of folks in his future polciy moves, by implication admitting that maybe he didn't do such a great job of that to start with.

All this whining and complaining about the cost of the election ignores the fact that Walker did not initially bargain in good faith with organized labor. He attempted a power grab, ignoring concessions the unions had publicly indicated they were willing to make in order to undermine the unions themselves. This was all clearly part of a one two punch strategy on the right, 1) stengthen the power of corporations by declaring that they had the same rights as real people, while 2) trying to finish off unions.

In the process, the Walker forces had to outspend the opposition by what some estimate to be a seven to one margin. All of that, simply because they wanted to end the power of organized labor, and by extension the power of the middle class. Had they played nice to begin with, there would not have been the cost of a recall election, they would have saved having to spend all that money of their big time corporate and wealthy donners, and they would still have control of the State Senate. Walker and his allies have nobody to blame but themselves for all three of those outcomes.   

If that map is to be believed, Walker won by a landslide. He did not. He barely scratched by with 53% of the vote.

Even if Walker won by 0.0001% in each of those precincts, it would still show the same colors.