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what do the different color uniforms mean?

ClosetTrekkie001

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Report this May. 29 2012, 2:30 pm

my step kids just asked me "what do the different color uniforms mean?" and i couldnt answer! can someone help?

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Report this May. 29 2012, 2:46 pm

I take it that since you asked in the TNG forum, you're more concerned about that era vs. TOS....


 


Red = Command


Gold = Operations (includes security/tactical)


Blue = Sciences


 


The idea is to quickly identify which division someone is working in - much like the US Navy does on ship.


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Report this May. 29 2012, 2:49 pm

A bit of elaboration on Bambam's answer.


 


Red also includes pilots.


Gold also includes engineering


And blue is both science and medical.


ClosetTrekkie001

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Report this May. 29 2012, 2:53 pm

and this is probably an even stupider one! why do some people's uniforms change color and than back again like Geordi

ClosetTrekkie001

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Report this May. 29 2012, 4:07 pm

thank you!

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Report this May. 29 2012, 4:15 pm

Quote: ClosetTrekkie001 @ May. 29 2012, 2:53 pm

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>and this is probably an even stupider one! why do some people's uniforms change color and than back again like Geordi

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Geordi was the pilot in season 1 before they figured out what they wanted to do with him. That's why he had a red shirt early on. Then they moved him to Engineering and switched his color to gold in season 2.


ClosetTrekkie001

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Report this May. 29 2012, 4:22 pm

see i knew i was asking a stupid question! thank you!

ClosetTrekkie001

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Report this May. 29 2012, 4:25 pm

i think i must have watched an episoid or 2 out of order they do that on netflix some times i have noticed!

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Report this May. 30 2012, 8:33 am

Trials and Tribble-ations (1996)

 




[the crew has traveled back in time and is now wearing TOS-style uniforms. Sisko is wearing gold, O'Brien red and Bashir blue]
Doctor Bashir: Wait a minute. Aren't you two wearing the wrong color?
O'Brien: Don't you know anything about this period in time?
Doctor Bashir: I'm a doctor, not an historian.
Sisko: In the old days, operations officers wore red, command officers wore gold...
Lt. Commander Jadzia Dax: And women wore less.
[Dax appears behind them, dressed in a revealing TOS miniskirt-style uniform]
Doctor Bashir: I think I'm going to like history.


All the best,Wayne

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Report this May. 30 2012, 1:25 pm

Red shirt of Death


Yellow baby poop


Blue missery


NOTHING THAT IS REAL IS REAL!

Trekkie-forever

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Report this May. 30 2012, 2:34 pm

Why is it that in TOS the vast majority of people who get are killed are wearing red shirts, but in the other series they kill whomever they wish, no matter what their uniform color is?

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Report this May. 31 2012, 7:35 am

It seems like more people in TNG wearing gold uniforms, for Security, got killed.


But, I had an interesting thought.  Are enlisted personnel's uniforms the same as those of officers, except for rank indications?


I recently saw a movie about the US Navy, in which the officers seemed to wear the khaki uniforms, the enlisted wore the light-blue uniforms, and someone else (CPOs?) wore the dark-blue uniforms.  Marines may have worn green or camouflage uniforms, I'm not sure.


That was kind of neat, because you could tell the people's relative ranks quickly.  I wonder if something like that might work for Star Trek.


Var Miklama--Zakdorn, engineer. "A sound mind in a FULL body!" "Time, like latinum, is a limited quantity in the galaxy."

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Report this May. 31 2012, 7:58 am

Quote: miklamar @ May. 31 2012, 7:35 am

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>It seems like more people in TNG wearing gold uniforms, for Security, got killed.

>But, I had an interesting thought.  Are enlisted personnel's uniforms the same as those of officers, except for rank indications?

>I recently saw a movie about the US Navy, in which the officers seemed to wear the khaki uniforms, the enlisted wore the light-blue uniforms, and someone else (CPOs?) wore the dark-blue uniforms.  Marines may have worn green or camouflage uniforms, I'm not sure.

>That was kind of neat, because you could tell the people's relative ranks quickly.  I wonder if something like that might work for Star Trek.

>


They did that in the movies. The officers wore the "Monster Maroons" and the rest of the crew wore the outfits with white shoulders.


The thing is that there don't seem to be many "enlisted personnel" on the Enterprise. The lowest rank seems to be Ensign. There may be a Crewman here and there, but the idea of enlisted ranks making up the bulk of the crew is really little more than fan speculation. Remember, Starfleet is not the US Navy. The simplicity of the uniforms is more in line with the show's egalitarian ideas.

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Report this May. 31 2012, 8:18 am

I thought I'd read that most ships had only about 15 percent of the crew as officers, with about 85 percent of the crew as enlisted--about 1 officer for every 6 crewmembers (including CPOs).  After all, why have Academy-trained officers performing routine maintenance tasks, like in the cargo bay, cleaning and so forth?


Also, think of Security.  Most of them were enlisted, weren't they?


Most enlisted personnel could probably wear jumpsuits, for safety and durability.


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Report this May. 31 2012, 11:19 am

Quote: miklamar @ May. 31 2012, 8:18 am

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>I thought I'd read that most ships had only about 15 percent of the crew as officers, with about 85 percent of the crew as enlisted--about 1 officer for every 6 crewmembers (including CPOs).  After all, why have Academy-trained officers performing routine maintenance tasks, like in the cargo bay, cleaning and so forth?

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I think the idea is that most of those "routine maintenance" jobs are so complicated that they actually require Academy-trained officers. That's why you always see Scotty and Geordi crawling around the bowels of the ship on their hands and knees. Think of the Enterprise as a space shuttle, rather than a battleship; the crew are astronauts, not sailors.

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