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Movie mistake in Generations!!

RStar17

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Report this Jun. 04 2012, 5:38 pm

Quote: Mitchz95 @ May. 23 2012, 8:24 am

Quote: RStar17 @ May. 22 2012, 6:33 am

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>Oh and the biggest fail in this movie goes to Picard. Supposedly you can leave the nexus and return to any time or place you want. So instead of bothering to get Kirk(and get him killed) he could have just said. "I want to return to the Enterprise while Soran is still on my ship and I can have a security team throw him in the brig." Then you save the planet, station and your ship. Not to mention you don't get Kirk killed.

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My best guess is that he wanted to minimize the changes to the timeline. But you're right, it is kind of weird.


But that's what he's doing by leaving. Changing the timeline. There's no getting around that. So, in one hand I have Kirk dead, a lot of my crew dead, and my ship destroyed. In the other I have Kirk alive in heaven, my ship and crew are fine and the bad guy is in custody before he can destroy a star system. Hard choice.


Really the only negative about returning to Amargossa and having Worf arrest Soran(the evidence against him is on the observatory so proof isn't an issue), is that Lursa and B'etor would still be loose. Not like they were effective villains anyways.


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Report this Jun. 04 2012, 8:43 pm

Quote: stovokor2000-A @ May. 23 2012, 4:08 am

Quote: Beershark @ May. 21 2012, 9:43 pm

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>no fail. they didn't just hack into it they modified it to control laforge.

no they did not


Weren't they trying to get him to kill some diplomat or something? Or is that a different episode, as has previously been pointed out to me.


Thanks for that by the way.


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RStar17

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Report this Jun. 04 2012, 11:00 pm

The Romulans conditioned LaForge to act as told and used the VISOR's symbols to have their agent activate him since it was tied directly into his brain.


The Klingon Ambassador(who was really a Romulan spy) was Geordi's controller in the field, and wanted Geordi to assassinate the Klingon Governor of Krios, a conquered system fighting for it's independence.


A starfleet officer killing the governor coupled with the implicator that the Federation was smuggling them arms, would drive a wedge in the Klingon/Federation alliance.


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Report this Jun. 05 2012, 8:44 am

actually, how did they leave the nexus?


this is just a friendly discussion, and it is not a movie mistake. I am just too stupid to understand.

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Report this Jun. 05 2012, 12:21 pm

picard and kirk wins and saves the day.

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Report this Jun. 05 2012, 2:48 pm

Apparently they can just leave by magic and go to when and where they want because there's no time there.


Personally if I was Picard, I would have just returned to Amargossa and had Worf toss Soran into the brig. But what do I know?


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Report this Jun. 06 2012, 3:48 pm

I thought the biggest mistake of the film was that it was made?

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Report this Jun. 06 2012, 6:14 pm

Actually this sums up how Generations should have ended if Picard was thinking clearly.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_5h0BRO5O4&list=PL89599CEA472CF8C9&index=11&feature=plpp_video


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Report this Jun. 07 2012, 7:21 am

Quote: Mitchz95 @ Jun. 04 2012, 4:38 pm

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>Just for the sake of discussion...perhaps they really didn't leave the Nexus, and the whole fighting-Soran thing (and all of Trek afterward) was just another illusion. I know that's not what happened, but it's an interesting what-if scenario.

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Report this Jun. 09 2012, 3:51 pm

Regarding the visor, with Geordi just seeing colors and the Klingons proper scenes, one must also remember that Geordi was blind and those Klingons weren't. So, the visor was a way for Geordi to at least see something.


With the ways of entering the Nexus, there were various methods that the Nexus could and couldn't be entered. And, sometimes even these did and did not work. So, there were rules to exceptions, and exceptions to rules.


Something else I thought of, about the film: Spock and McCoy didn't appear in the film, because Leonard and DeForest refused due to these having no roles. Their lines were notified by Scotty and Chekov. What I thought of now, is that the film makers could have still got around that. They could have actors with the same builds as Spock and McCoy. Then afterwards digitally replaced their heads with those of Spock and McCoy from past stock cells. (Their lines still modified by Scotty and McCoy.) It would e.g. be a way of showing off that film technique, and even showing Leonard and DeForest that they can get past it. 

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Report this Jun. 09 2012, 9:31 pm

none that i can see.

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Report this Jun. 10 2012, 7:13 am

Quote: SpockType @ Jun. 09 2012, 3:51 pm

>They could have actors with the same builds as Spock and McCoy. Then afterwards digitally replaced their heads with those of Spock and McCoy from past stock cells. (Their lines still modified by Scotty and McCoy.) It would e.g. be a way of showing off that film technique, and even showing Leonard and DeForest that they can get past it. 

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Is that even legal? And how would they have gotten their voices?


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Report this Jun. 10 2012, 2:09 pm

Nimoy and DeKelley didn't want to be glorified extras. Doohan and Koenig were used to the role, so filled in. Sort of ironic Nimoy later decided to be a glorified extra in the 2009 movie.


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Report this Jun. 10 2012, 2:29 pm

Quote: RStar17 @ Jun. 10 2012, 2:09 pm

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>Nimoy and DeKelley didn't want to be glorified extras. Doohan and Koenig were used to the role, so filled in. Sort of ironic Nimoy later decided to be a glorified extra in the 2009 movie.

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I dunno, I think Spock Prime was pretty important to that movie. He explained Nero's origins, how the Abramsverse ties into the prime universe, etc. And I'm sure Nimoy's blessing gave the movie credibility to the skeptics.


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Report this Jun. 10 2012, 4:20 pm

Actually, Some Idiot Slipped In Some Bogus Footage Trying To Put That Peice Of Shit Called Whoopi Goldberg In The Movie.   

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